On Monday 27 September 2004 00:56, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: It is difficult to avoid the flame-baits and not keep fuelling the flames. And I'll continue to do my best in this area (if people wonder why I don't respond to many of the 'issues' raised against me).
> You seem to want to do "your thing" inside the ASF. What I really _want_ is to get on working on the products, getting the best tools possible in the hands of our users, and as little as possible be involved with "things inside the ASF". However, that is not as easy as it first seems. > This does not seem > to work as the current state of the Avalon community implies, because > there are different opinions or even politics. If you insist on forking > Avalon (with the Metro TLP), why not fork off-ASF? e.g. to > codehaus.org? > Why not incubate Metro before calling for a TLP? Is it the reduced > visibility? This perhaps not the true subject of this thread, but never the less; It boils down to users, of which I am one myself. Does Apache send the right message to tuck it away in what many consider a "lab", or shut yet another project down, which is the true effect of a fork? It doesn't send the right message to me, and I was also burnt on Phoenix a year something ago. At that time it hurt, but I was a bit comforted by the fact that Merlin existed as a somewhat compatible path forward, and someone (McConnell) working real hard to get you going. That path doesn't exist this time. Cheers Niclas -- +------//-------------------+ / http://www.bali.ac / / http://niclas.hedhman.org / +------//-------------------+ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
