Yes, people without insurance, if they can afford the care, they are called "private patients" and pay much more than the ones who are insured. The docs, my colleagues, love them... In psychiatry, since the insurance coverage is so minimal even people who can barelly afford go the "private way"... psychiatrists love it. The other day I saw the paper work required from someone trying to have insurance. Unbelievable how much information the industry wants... if there is anything, I mean a mild depression when you lost your mother twenty years ago , you are denied. And the people who want to change insurances and in the mean time have gotten a cronic disease? They can´t even change jobs... What a mess!
I will sound radical but medicine is not an activity that can be for profit. If you want to be a doctor this should not be your main motivation. Of course you like to earn a living with some confort... But money should not be your main motivation. If this is the case, get an MBA and become a banker... The same with hospitals and insurances... they can not be for profit. As simple as this Marcio MD -----Original Message----- >From: "Rev. Stewart Marshall" <popoz...@earthlink.net> >Sent: Sep 6, 2009 6:26 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... > >No I get your point. > >I have lived under both systems (Canada's and Ours) > >I have a very compelling interest in this. > >I think the right to purchase and get Insurance is a right!!!!! > >The problem is that we have made insurance only something for someone >who can afford it and be eligible. > >My daughter tried to get insurance a few years ago on her own. Could >not get coverage she was denied by one of the biggest carriers in our >state. Why? She had asthma when she was younger. (Has not had it >in over a decade.) Son works full time is not offered insurance and >as I wrote earlier is gay (which is a reason for denial used by >insurance companies) > >Insurance companies have written the rules to guarantee them profits >and deny coverage whenever they so determine. > >Unless you have a full time job and make a decent wage you are not >offered insurance or cannot afford it. > >I advocate all people being able to get insurance but make it >affordable and easily gettable. (which it is not at this point) > >Is health care a right? Maybe maybe not, but the ability to afford >it and get it should be. (By the way dirty little secret, people >without insurance are charged much higher rates than people who do!!!) > >Stewart > > >At 02:22 PM 9/6/2009, you wrote: >>You miss my point, Rev. I expect that of Tom, but you? >> >>We are being told that health care is a "right." I disagree. Health care >>is paramount, no doubt, but it is no more a right than food or a place to >>live. >> >>I have a right to life, if nothing else, but I don't have a right to demand >>that someone provide me with food to eat. I have a right to be sheltered >>from the elements, but I don't have the right to demand that I be provided a >>home. If I want these thing, I must provide them for myself or enter into a >>charitable arrangement. Call me old fashioned for still believing in the >>work ethic. >> >>If someone must provide you with something of value in order to enjoy a >>"right," then it is not a right, but instead a privilege. For me to enjoy >>my right to free speech, no one needs to build me soap box nor provide me >>with a megaphone. I can't even force you to listen. *That* is a right. >> >> > Health care is not so easy. Very often people are frozen out of >> > health care because they either cannot afford it. (most of the folks >> > who sell cheap insurance are rip off artists) or they cannot get >>insurance. >> >>Then we should get the state out of the health care business and allow real >>competition to work, so that it can be affordable for everyone, just as it >>is for food and shelter. Guvmint interference has done far more harm than >>good in that regard. >> >>We already have examples of what to expect from guvmint run health care. >>Why hasn't anyone talked about reforming Medicare first? Shouldn't we see >>if that much more modest plan, already in existence, can be made sustainable >>and workable, before we talk about adding trillions more in spending that we >>don't have to begin with? Medicare is already going to be underwater in the >>next few years. How will O-Care be any different? >> >>I'm sure you've read it by now, but if not, read Whole Foods CEO John >>Mackey's op-ed on real reform in health care. Very good ideas in it and one >>of the few honest propositions in this debate. >> >>http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204251404574342170072865070.ht >>ml >> >>And I will reiterate for clarity: I already spend much more on food and >>shelter than I do on health care, at any point in time. I don't consider >>myself lacking in any of the three. >> >> >>************************************************************************* >>** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >>** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >>************************************************************************* > >Rev. Stewart A. Marshall >mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net >Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org >Ozark, AL SL 82 > > >************************************************************************* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >************************************************************************* ************************************************************************* ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *************************************************************************
