Do you think it would be appropriate to call a formal vote in the community, structured as a choice between ACF and ManifoldCF? I think we need to clarify the position of the community relative to your specific proposal.
Karl On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Grant Ingersoll <gsing...@apache.org> wrote: > The general consensus from Board members expressing an opinion (and it was > not a call for a binding vote, so it is not officially a Board decision, but > is rather the opinion of a couple of Board members) was that the name is less > than ideal, but no action by the Board should be taken to stop it. That > being said, those who did express an opinion felt the name was less than > ideal. Several other ASF Members also felt it was a less than ideal name. > > Also, my two cents: The views of these Board members at this time should not > be construed to be the views of some future Board reviewing a TLP Graduation > request. In other words, the Board is elected once a year. Opinions could > change enough that they could still say no to the name in the future. Short > of graduation vote, I don't see a way around that. I don't think you would > get the Board to vote on a future event of this nature that binds some future > Board to a particular position. > > So, I guess it is up to the community at this point. > > I personally feel ManifoldCF is the best choice at this point, as it removes > the risk around the genericness of ACF and also removes the trademark concern > around the 2nd most popular name choice of Manifold. I don't like Yukon or > Macon as I think they are too generic in the broader world (GMC Yukon, Yukon > Territories, Macon GA) such that our SEO is limited, thereby making it harder > for people to find us. At the same time, the current vote has passed not > just here, but also up the chain, so if it goes forward, so be it. > > -Grant > > On Sep 20, 2010, at 6:03 AM, Karl Wright wrote: > >> Any news from the board? >> Karl >> >> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Karl Wright <daddy...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Yes, I've been following the JIRA issue. I'm actually more curious >>> about the board's opinion of the name choice. >>> Karl >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Grant Ingersoll <gsing...@apache.org> >>> wrote: >>>> News should be posted on the JIRA issue. For now, it's being handled >>>> internally. Seems we aren't the only ones w/ the issue and apparently >>>> MINA has been shipping with it. >>>> >>>> -Grant >>>> >>>> On Sep 15, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Karl Wright wrote: >>>> >>>>> Any news on this? >>>>> Karl >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Grant Ingersoll >>>>> <gsing...@apache.org>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-80 has been created to track >>>>>> the NTLM issue. Sam Ruby is working w/ the ASF attorneys on this. I >>>>>> don't >>>>>> know how long it will take. In a separate thread, we should discuss >>>>>> workarounds/fallback plans so that we are prepared either way. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Grant >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 13, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Karl Wright wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 to both. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Karl >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Jack Krupansky < >>>>>>> jack.krupan...@lucidimagination.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> +1 to both - review of name and address the NTLM issue since ACF is >>>>>> getting >>>>>>>> closer to where an actual 0.1 release could be considered. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- Jack Krupansky >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> From: "Grant Ingersoll" <grant.ingers...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:35 PM >>>>>>>> To: <connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ACF passed the Incubator vote. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My question to the community is do you want me to go to the Board and >>>>>> ask >>>>>>>>> for advice on this since the Board ultimately approves any podling >>>>>>>>> graduating? One Director weighed in on the vote saying the Board >>>>>> wouldn't >>>>>>>>> care, but in my view it was not an official opinion. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I was actually thinking about asking the board for two things: >>>>>>>>> 1. View of the name >>>>>>>>> 2. Whether they have guidance on our repeated request about NTLM and >>>>>> it's >>>>>>>>> inclusion in any ACF release. I believe someone was slated to engage >>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> us a few months back, but I don't believe anyone has reached out to us >>>>>> yet. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thoughts? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Grant >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2010, at 4:54 AM, Karl Wright wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Voting is now closed. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Final tally (which only counts Robert's first choice and not all >>>>>> three): >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Apache Connectors Framework 15 >>>>>>>>>> Apache Manifold 11 >>>>>>>>>> Apache Yukon 9 >>>>>>>>>> Apache Macon 4 >>>>>>>>>> Apache ManifoldCF 3 >>>>>>>>>> Apache Omni 1 >>>>>>>>>> Apache Acromantula 1 >>>>>>>>>> Apache Lukon 1 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Karl >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -------------------------- >>>>>>>>> Grant Ingersoll >>>>>>>>> http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct >>>>>> 7-8 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -------------------------- >>>>>> Grant Ingersoll >>>>>> http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct 7-8 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------- >>>> Grant Ingersoll >>>> http://www.lucidimagination.com/ >>>> >>>> Search the Lucene ecosystem docs using Solr/Lucene: >>>> http://www.lucidimagination.com/search >>>> >>>> >>> > > -------------------------- > Grant Ingersoll > http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct 7-8 > >
