Don makes a good point - it's only new posts that would be affected. One option is to see if we can leave the old archives up to preserve links.
Seth > On Aug 6, 2025, at 9:34 PM, Don Veino <[email protected]> wrote: > > [many good prior posts trimmed out for brevity] > > This may be obvious to some and not others, but a decision to "go private" > will really only affect new posts, as whatever has been public is already out > in the wild and will remain so. As an example: > > https://web.archive.org/web/20160224183004/http://lists.sharedweight.net/pipermail/callers-sharedweight.net/2015-July/thread.html > > Note this is another public web property and just a single example of what is > also likely held in "dark" archives elsewhere. > > As another consideration, what we post and discuss here is by its primary > nature a public thing, ultimately presented to a wide community at events > typically open to anyone. The group of people on copy in the group is large > and therefore expectations of privacy should be low to nil? > > As much as I distrust the motives of many organizations behind AI, I feel a > robust search function like that currently available through Google, et al, > is a valuable resource. Unless the groups.io <http://groups.io/> search can > replace that, I'm more inclined to keep the current public policy. > > -Don > > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2025, 10:56 AM Seth Seeger via Contra Callers > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Dear list members, >> >> Since the beginning, the archives for this list have been public. This was >> an effort to make information easier to search, to find, to link to, and to >> share. However, the days of free information online have changed. AI bots >> are now scraping the web for data to train on and privacy is more of an >> issue. >> >> As we move to groups.io <http://groups.io/>, Chris and I would like to make >> the archives private. The biggest reasons are member privacy and to protect >> us from AI training/scraping. This means that you’ll need a free account on >> the new site to view the archives. >> >> We feel this is a good change for our community. Since the only barrier to >> the archives would be subscribing, we think this is a reasonable trade off >> between privacy and accessibility. >> >> If you have concerns about this change, please reply! (Once we make the >> archives at groups.io <http://groups.io/> private, we cannot make them >> public again later.) >> >> Thank you, >> Seth & Chris >> _______________________________________________ >> Contra Callers mailing list -- [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>
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