+1 to Maia On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 at 7:11 am, Maia McCormick via Contra Callers < [email protected]> wrote:
> Just my two cents, not an opinion that's necessarily strong enough to sway > us one way or the other but figured I'd share: > > I really don’t feel excited about feeding the giant capitalist dystopia > plagiarism machine. I don't see "improving the capability of LLMS" as an > obvious good. I think that LLMs are good for a ton of things, but the > current hype is overblown and dangerous and I'm just hoping the current > bubble pops before it does more damage. > > I agree that if you exist on the Internet these days, it's pretty hard to > avoid having your content fed to LLMs; and I think the benefit of having > the listserv be public to nonmembers may very well outweigh the costs of > feeding the giant capitalist dystopia plagiarism machine. However, I will > be pretty grumpy if we decide that feeding the plagiarism machine is the > express reason WHY we are leaving the listserv public. > -- > Maia McCormick (she/her) > 917.279.8194 > > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2025 at 5:22 AM Mo Waddington via Contra Callers < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Some of us are UK based, so members of EFDSS not CDSS >> >> >> On 05/08/2025 22:29, Sivier, Jonathan E via Contra Callers wrote: >> >> There are 2 different elements of a group that can be made private. >> There is the archive of past messages and then there is the group itself. >> I would suggest that even if the archives are made private, so that only >> group members can access them, that the groups should still be listed in >> the Groups.io directory. That would mean that people looking for dance >> related groups could find them and apply to join. Of course, if the >> intention is that only CDSS members can join the groups then I suppose they >> shouldn't be listed in the directory and links to the groups could be >> available in CDSS Commons where CDSS members can log in and then apply to >> join one or more lists. >> >> Jonathan >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Sivier, Jonathan E <[email protected]> <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2025 3:42 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> <[email protected]> >> <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [Callers] Re: List archives >> >> >> If you are a member of the group, and logged in, the numbers under the >> months are links to the archive. >> >> Jonathan >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Keith Elmo Eldridge via Contra Callers >> <[email protected]> >> <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2025 3:35 PM >> *To:* 'barbara153' <[email protected]> <[email protected]>; 'Michael >> Fuerst via Contra Callers' <[email protected]> >> <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* [Callers] Re: List archives >> >> Barbara wrote: >> > How would I access these lists if you change to private? >> >> I moved a number of genealogical Mailing Lists from RootsWeb to >> Groups.io in 2020. The archives for them are not private and they at >> listed by month at the bottom of the page for each Group. E.g. for my >> Essex-UK Group go to: >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://groups.io/g/Essex-UK__;!!DZ3fjg!9gV8o9q6jEA1a6Er2YCQnai2kNjSMwFB65l8lSysasHxZnxWAwmAwH2cSfWqNeEG4wSDNCwz82fqN8Cg8LZa6z_yfaMrrI9N15Iu$ >> When the archives for a Group are private the message per month are >> shown, but there are no links, just a number. E.g. >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://groups.io/g/Podger__;!!DZ3fjg!9gV8o9q6jEA1a6Er2YCQnai2kNjSMwFB65l8lSysasHxZnxWAwmAwH2cSfWqNeEG4wSDNCwz82fqN8Cg8LZa6z_yfaMrrI3g-yj8$ >> >> Cheers >> Elmo >> -- >> --Keith Elmo Eldridge >> [email protected] >> --Sheffield, England >> --I am therefore I dance. I dance therefore I am. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Contra Callers mailing list -- [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Contra Callers mailing list -- [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Contra Callers mailing list -- [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> [email protected] >> > _______________________________________________ > Contra Callers mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >
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