Le Samedi 07 Juin 2003 20:55, Stefan van der Eijk a écrit : > Jaroslaw Zachwieja wrote: > >>But, we might be getting to the point where we actually need a cooker > >>extranet. For example, I would like to be able to remove build output on > >> an automated build host to get a package rebuilt, but we wouldn't want > >>anyone to be able to remove build output ...
It seems installer need works on sparc/alpha; Guillaume Cottenceau seems to agree about working on port be he need a computer to test, of course. About network, I have an athlon as frontend which host chroot for plf, it have lot of disk space, host unique home/repository for all development (i586/ppc/sparc). About buildoutput, I have a personnal script to rebuild package on ppc/sparc. log are put in a directory, maybe we can a unique repository where all rebuilder can upload automatically those files. With a standard convention naming for automatically removing obsoletes log. > > > >Well, SPARC's (and at some point Alpha and Opteron 240 SMP) at CSC are on > >private network behind 9.1 i586 box. I can't see anything that should stop > >us from creating the extranet and have the builds automated and > >coordinated. Some centralised user authentication might be a good idea at > >some point if we have more developers. > > > >The only drawback would be probably the fact, that single development > >machines without dedicated front-end might need some more work to > >configure everything, but I think that it'll be worth it. > > > >Stefan? Olivier? Gwenole? What do you think? > > > >At the moment, to my knowledge we have the following machines _dedicated_ > >to non-intel cooker development (please, developers, fill in all blanks): > > > >Alpha > > - 2 x XP1000 - CSC still 7.1b - need help with this > > - 1 x ?????? - Stefan Van Der Eijk > > PWS 433au > > > - others? > > mpol has an alpha. > Juan has one. > there used to be one at the Paris office (same as Juan's?) > > >SPARC > > > > - 1 x SparcStation 10 SMP - Olivier Thauvin > > - 1 x SparcClassic - CSC (unused - 32 bit system) > > - 2 x Ultra 10 - CSC > > - 1 x Ultra 5 - CSC > > - others? > > > >PPC > > > > - 1 x ?????? - Olivier Thauvin Titanium G4 500, 512 Mo Ram > > > > - others? > > > >x86_64 > > > > - 1 x Dual Opteron 240 - CSC (ETA 15 days) > > - others? > > PA-RISC > - 1 x HP 9000 D-class model D390/800 - Stefan van der Eijk (on loan > during the summer) I have one HP box but don't know if linux can run on it. Will looking. > > MIPS > - 1 x SGI IRIS Indigo - Stefan van der Eijk (RAM defect?) > > >I think, that only computers solely dedicated (i.e. not used in any other > >way) may be listed here and eventually included in the extranet. > > > >Because CSC uses Mandrake on all workstations and servers, and we're very > >happy with it (kudos to both cooker and core development teams!) our > >position is to support development of the distribution by providing > >hardware and network resources in return. Naturally we're aware that > >hosting the machines is serious commitment (especially sustaining the > >support over time) and we're ready to fulfil it. > > > >Maybe if we manage to pull this off before 9.2 and have all the packages > >rebuilt, MandrakeSoft will be interested in releasing 9.2 for i586, > >x86_64, Alpha, Sparc64 and PPC? > > <IMHO> > Releasing means supporting. supporting a product requires an > organisation and knowledge being available. It also needs to be > worthwhile --> bring some $$$ to the company. For the alpha, mips, > pa-risc and sparc the market is too small. Right, but look at ppc, mandrake exactly the same product as you can find on mirror ( 3 isos ). Mandrake never make somethings to promute the distro on non i586. I think making an installable distro for sparc/alpha/ppc will make publicity and prove a mandrake activity. > > Since I'm more or less the maintainer of the alpha port, I've had some > interesting discussions with mdk employees on this topic. I don't have > the illusion that the alpha port will ever turn into a "product" that > will be supported and even bring revenue to mdk. I see it as my personal > research project --> I want to prove that maintaining multiple ports can > be done efficiently... > </IMHO> Well maybe I can explain why I restart sparc ports: - I like play - I like to works on non standards things. Is it usefull, not sure ;) > > >Wouldn't it be the first commercial > >distribution (in couple of years) that allows to run the same system > >across 5 architectures? > > We'll have to see... :-) > > It would even be nice if we (the community) can maintain these ports and > learn a bit & have some fun... Fully agree > > >Comments/ideas anyone? -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/
