On Sunday 19 October 2003 09:59 am, Jan Ciger wrote:
> They are still on the 9.2 CDs, they weren't left out. Just that mc is
> not installed by default. Is it so difficult to either select mc during
> install or tell the newbie to "urpmi mc" ? What is your point ? It was a
> decision by Mandrakesoft to not install mc by default, we may not agree
> with it but whining in Cooker is not going to change it. This discussion
> was here already and now it is too late for it anyway.
not going to worry about the rest as you are not reading properly so I wont 
answer. I don't really care about mc per say lets say I'm not even talking 
about mc. I was mentioning all the related emacs packages not just xemacs. 

I think that about clears up your arguments and if your read correctly I said 
I include all the main packages accept the games and only the needed gnome 
stuff from contribs. Please do read a little better and think out your 
answers before you respond. 

here is a partial list of 9.1 only as I dont have them local and no easy way 
to get them other than rpmsearch.

Name : emacs-X11        
Version : 21.2.93       Vendor : MandrakeSoft
Release : 2mdk  Date : 2003-01-29 00:00:00
Group : Editors         Source RPM : emacs-21.2.93-2mdk.src.rpm
Size : 5883326

Name : xemacs-mule      
Version : 21.4.12       Vendor : MandrakeSoft
Release : 1mdk  Date : 2003-02-13 00:00:00
Group : Editors         Source RPM : xemacs-21.4.12-1mdk.src.rpm
Size : 27610093

Name : emacs    
Version : 21.2.93       Vendor : MandrakeSoft
Release : 2mdk  Date : 2003-01-29 00:00:00
Group : Editors         Source RPM : emacs-21.2.93-2mdk.src.rpm
Size : 21090232

Name : xemacs-info      
Version : 21.4.12       Vendor : MandrakeSoft
Release : 1mdk  Date : 2003-02-13 00:00:00
Group : Editors         Source RPM : xemacs-21.4.12-1mdk.src.rpm
Size : 3526956

Name : xemacs   
Version : 21.4.12       Vendor : MandrakeSoft
Release : 1mdk  Date : 2003-02-13 00:00:00
Group : Editors         Source RPM : xemacs-21.4.12-1mdk.src.rpm
Size : 53239331

none of these packages accept for xemacs-info are very small in size. they all 
combined are well close to the numbers I gave. I dont know the conversion 
right off but they are easily around 60 megs the other packages I was 
thinking about which would have brought it close to 100 are in contribs. 
Anyway this was for mandrake 9.1 anyway so I dont know exact number for 9.2 
or the current cooker it's hard to measure the size of them when they are not 
on your system.

As for the rest of what you said I'm not sure I think you are a little 
confused and not reading my responses correctly. Please keep an open mind and 
reread them to understand.  

Ah just when you think cooker is getting a little boring. 
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