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One more thing about aurora: could the start ship possibly check if VESA FB is really running? Some new motherboards (Asus A7V-266E) + nVidia Cards seem to have a problem with at least the latest kernels (tested this on 3 different machines with all this mobo but different nvidia cards): When in Vesa FB the virtual terminals do not show up. After X is started you can switch back to the virtual terminals and they appear normally but before going to X the screen is almost black (bit lighter, so something is happening). I think it's a kernel bug but as a work-around I disabled VESA fb, Riva FB works fun but has known instability problems in conjuction with the nvidia drivers. So I enabled 16 color VGA in the kernel. When I now enable Aurora the system hangs with a message like (IIRC): unable to initialize framebuffer object. possibly aurora really wants at least VESA, so can the script check for this? Danny On Friday 04 January 2002 02:12, you wrote: > Peter Berg Larsen wrote: > >On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Guy Zelck wrote: > >>>>>I guess this is a old thing, I get this with 8.1 also. > >>>>>Whenever i boot mandrake with any of the Aurora rpms installed > >>>>>it complains that it can't run kudzu cause it can't open the console. > >>>> > >>>>Yes, I noticed the aurora variable used in the concerning startup > >>>> script stays empty so the if statements fail. > >>>>Where this aurora variable is supposed to be defined I don't know but > >>>>would like to. > >>> > >>>It (aurora variable) is defined in /etc/rc.d/rc, but it is never > >>> exported. > >> > >>That's true, but, the next line in /etc/rc : > >>"[ -f /lib/aurora/functions -a -f /etc/aurora/Monitor ] && > >>/etc/aurora/Monitor startable && aurora=1" > >>will never yield aurora=1 since /etc/aurora/Monitor is of size 0 and on > >>my system even absent. > > > >/etc/aurora/Monitor is a softlink to the gui (script) you want > >aurora to use (e.q. gtk+, newstyle) in /lib/aurora/Monitors/. > > > >>Or is this script called Monitor created when you enable aurora in the > >>Mandrake control center. Anyway, sth. is wrong as I had the same pb. > >>as the "HeadTechnician". > > > >If I understand it correct then yes. (and removes the softlink if aurora > >is not used). > > > > > >Peter > > I've done the test. I didn't think about the symlink because I saw a > plain file in the package but this is what they do in the postinstall > phase of the aurora package : > # rpm -q --scripts Aurora > postinstall scriptlet (through /bin/sh): > rm -f /etc/aurora/Monitor > preuninstall scriptlet (through /bin/sh): > touch /etc/aurora/Monitor > [root@gz:/tmp] > > Then after enabling aurora we get : > # ll /etc/aurora/Monitor > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 38 jan 4 02:02 > /etc/aurora/Monitor -> /lib/aurora/Monitors/Traditional-WsLib* > > Nevertheless, the cmd "/etc/aurora/Monitor startable" in /etc/rc must > under some circomstances yield a false so aurora=1 is not set or is it > just "export aurora" that's missing from the file? Anyway, knowing all > this we can test and solve further. > > One other thing on aurora, I chose the Traditional style but never see > the mouse pointer on startup. I've seen it only once but do not know > under which conditions. It can't be needing gpm that early in the > bootprocess can it? > > See ya, > Guy. - -- "I don't know, " said the voice on the PA, "apathetic bloody planet, I've no sympathy at all. " -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8NjkeaeiN+EU2vEIRAvOtAJ95c870LfUzpX7xykGY9OQbUuEfAACdEc/H 8wzp312l/N29SGJKUxL82kU= =c+3x -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----