"R.I.P. Deaddog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 20 Jan 2002, Pixel wrote:
> 
> > >  Mandrake seems to be only major distro that does not have an "install
> > >  everything" option.
> > 
> > does SuSE has it?
> > 
> > has for RedHat they *much* less packages, so "install everything" is much less
> > dangerous for them.
> 
> Is redhat powertools taken into account?

AFAIK powertools do not exist anymore. Some packages have been included in
redhat's main, others have been simply dropped.

> 
> > I did test some "install everything" installs but things get nasty with over
> > 3Gigas of installed packages. "rpm" gets slow as hell (and install time gets
> > very high), and other bad things happen.
> 
> This annoyance has been brought up many times before; installing Mandrake
> RPM seems to be much more slower than installing Redhat RPM, given
> similarly configured machine, containing similar number of packages. I
> have no official benchmark to support me, but what I observed is that
> the installation time grows exponentially for mandrake when number of
> package increases, while it's more or less linear for redhat.

AFAIK the same would happen with redhat.

Here are some figures:


8.1pre_rc1     rpm   df                       time/rpm  rpm/df

6   ()         82    66    1:26   ext2 500M   1.05      1.24
5   ()         89    71    1:38   ext2 500M   1.10      1.25
3   ()         94    77    1:46   ext2 500M   1.13      1.22
5   X         145   127    2:09   ext2 500M   0.89      1.14
3   X         231   217    3:26   ext2 500M   0.89      1.06
4   kde       393   316    4:31   ext2 2G     0.69      1.24
4   kde       393   316    4:41   ext2 2G     0.72      1.24
4   kde       393   316    4:43   ext2 4G     0.72      1.24
5   all       367   337    5:02   ext2 500M   0.82      1.09
4   kde+gnome 454   370    5:50   ext2 4G     0.77      1.23
4   kde+gnome 454   370    6:10   ext2 4G     0.81      1.23
4   kde+gnome 454   370    6:24   ext2 4G     0.85      1.23
5   all       489   406    5:55   ext2 4G     0.73      1.20
5   all       490   406    5:18   ext2 1G     0.65      1.21
4   kd+gn+dsk 594   494    7:31   ext2 4G     0.76      1.20
4   prev+dev  827   696   10:27   ext2 4G     0.76      1.19
4   all      1100   988   19:34   ext2 1G     1.07      1.11
3   all      1640  1331   31:33   ext2 2G     1.15      1.23
3   all      1740  1434   39:38   ext2 4G     1.37      1.21
2   all      2252  1843   54:40   ext2 4G     1.46      1.22
-1  all      2490  2048   61:02   ext2 4G     1.47      1.22

The interesting part is the time/rpm when installed size grows:
- up until around 1G, it's quite stable (except for very small installs)
- with bigger installs, time increase a lot

On a >4G rpm database, a simple "rpm -e small_package_with_few_dependency"
takes forever (forever being around 20seconds)

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