On Tue Mar 05, 2002 at 09:38:16AM +0000, richard bown wrote: > > I also only make reference to the newbies here because everyone else > > seems to want to continually point out that Mandrake is for newbies, > > so those who want to use Mandrake as an "expert" (I guess) are stuck > > with some newbiezed software configured in a newbiezed way. > > > > (not that I believe Mandrake is just for newbies at all) > Nor do I, > but, and there's always a but, if you compare mandrake to the other > distros ,ie redhat, Suse, (no personal experiance of slackware and > debian) at the moment the install is easier and less likely to fail. > Redhat dos'nt always detect the users harwdware, and suse's is a pain in > the butt to install, keep changing the cd's every few mins !. > Mandrake is not usually the first OS a newbie will try, its often the've > tried redhat, screwed up the install, cant get something to run and end > up with mdk on recommendation. > > Its at this point if some developer keeps putting his/her personal > whims and locks out the very facilites the new user wants, the new user > is just liable to give up and go back to winblows. > So everyone loses ! > > less users , more attitude by the major s/w players that its not worth > providing products for a OS that no-one uses,, WE ALL LOSE. > If a developer wants to be a cyber-hermit, fine let them. It's their > choice, but please don't ram it down the throats of everyone else by > default. > ie . rp_filters should not be turned on by default, only at the highest > msec level, definatly not 2 or 3.
Hmmm... not sure where this all came from... =) Let me just say that I do agree with you... by no means was I suggesting that we should make Mandrake harder to use or in any other way unattractive to newbies. My point was that Mandrake isn't *just* for newbies... if it was, we could probably fit everything on CD (how many newbies are going to learn emacs or vi, configure iplog, etc.) -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ "lynx -source http://www.freezer-burn.org/bios/vdanen.gpg | gpg --import" 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD Current Linux kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk uptime: 42 days 17 hours 57 minutes.
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