On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 11:22:37AM +0100, Steffen Barszus wrote: > > Hmmm I know encryption is a littlebit a problem. But there are people using > the german Premiere (pay-TV) with vdr.
Right, but the encryption is probably using standard mechanisms, not bastarized the way DISH apparently is. See my previous post for a URL to a thread on the linux-dvb ML about it. > yes for sure, but shipping from US/canada to europe will be more expensive > than the card I guess. Really, even if sent by regular mail? > Have a look here: > >http://search.ebay.de/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&query=g400+matrox&cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.de%2Fws%2F&ht=1&from=R10&currdisp=2&itemtimedisp=1&st=2&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&shortcut=4&BasicSearch= 30 EUR is expensive? http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2080725779 Or even 23 EUR for a 32MB card? http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2081780803 > Yes sure. At least you know best whats the situation at there you live. Right. This was my whole point in suggesting I need to move to somewhere more liberated, like Europe. :-) > And I > think there is a demand for the dvb-driver to work better with cam/ci. > hopefully this will improve. Still wouldn't work here with a lack of DVB use period and it being bastardized where it is being used. > Yes Mjpeg eats a lot of diskspace while having the best quality. Maybe I will get a chance to find out myself. I might even buy into recording with MJPEG and transcoding to MPEG2 offline. > What you said > about the Kfir board I'm not sure. I think the author of vdr is using such a > card for connect a digital sat-receiver to his vdr. So I'm not sure if the > really discontinued it. It seems that while the Kfir manufacturer was right on board with Linux at one time, they have backed down a bit and making it work is more difficult. Finding Kfir boards here in North America seemed difficult the last time I looked. > Hopefully. At the moment they want a law for enabling software-patents here in > europe too I have heard. Stand your ground! > and too they will have a european DMCA. That is for sure now? I feel your pain. > I really hate this > lobbyists. Indeed. Who lobbies for the consumer? > There are laws making copying and sharing trough the internet > illegal. But they want us to not making privat copys. Right. This is the rub. In efforts to curb illegal use, they are also making common criminals of most law-abiding citizens. This is why the DMCA is so hideous. > And enabling > softwarepatents is the best way to kill free software. whhaa thinkin about > all that gets me really angry. Me too. > Ok but if you would have DVB you really would want vdr ;) Maybe I would. Seeing as I can't have DVB, I have not looked terribly closely at it. > A link you may be interested in : > http://www.eet.com/sys/news/OEG20021213S0034 The key quote in the whole article: "Frankly, some of those additional requirements [demanded by Hollywood] have nothing to do with copy protection, but a lot to do with studios' own business models," Jaboulet said. This is the whole reason for all of this so-called "copyright" BS. How can we squeeze more money out of the consumer? But this is going wildly OT for Cooker now. b. -- Brian J. Murrell
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