Dave,

As has been pointed out, you pay now or you pay later...and most 'Coupes
are
pushing 50.  I paid a fair price for a fair 415-E in 1990.  During my
first
couple of years with N94783 there were various problems common to a plane
of
this vintage and state of maintenance and pretty much an hour of minor
(and
occasionally not so minor) fixing for every 2-3 hours of
flying...essentially this was me getting stuck with the "bill" for a
number
of preceding years of deferred maintenance by several previous owners.  In
1994 I bit the bullet and put two years and more money than I should have
into a total teardown followed by a complete "better than new" rebuild
with
many upgrades.  Now I have an O-200 powered Ercoupe that has been
absolutely
trouble-free for 280 hours over 2 1/2 years.  With new equipment (or built
back to almost new condition), you can expect little or no problems for
quite awhile.  As it gets on, though, I do expect problems to start
cropping
up slowly.  Aging equipment will, without an aggressive
prevention-oriented
maintenance schedule, start costing you more money and more downtime with
every passing year; this is as true of a plane as it is of a tractor or a
car or anything else.  The Ercoupe is a terrific airplane for what is
built
to do...haul one or two people at a fairly good speed given the fuel
economy, at a maximum of fun.  Its handling and visibility are superb.
Buy
as much 'Coupe as you can afford in terms of good condition...have it
thoroughly checked out by an AP/IA familiar with the type BEFORE you
buy...and then fly it.  Fix any major items immediately and do good
preventive maintenance on an aggressive schedule...and your maintenance
costs and downtime will be kept at a minimum.

There is no such thing as cheap flying...only degrees of expense ranging
from expensive to obscene.  A good 'Coupe is about as "cheap" as one can
find a plane to own and operate...but it is still going to cost.  Even if
it
costs a bit more than renting, it is always available and you know its
maintenance and flying history (at least since you bought it).  What price
peace of mind, no?

My costs (not including the rebuild and upgrade...makes me cry to think
about what that ran) are realistically about $45 - 50 per hour.  This is
for
Fuel/Insurance/Hanger/Engine Overhaul set aside/Annual set aside.  Tie it
up
outside and the costs go down...but long-term maintenance costs will
likely
go up somewhat from additional exposure.   Like everything, it is a
tradeoff...

Get a good 'Coupe and you won't regret it.

John Olav Johnsen
Ercoupe 415-E  N94783  s/n 4894
Albuquerque, New Mexico

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, December 06, 1999 10:02 AM
Subject: Buy Ercoupe?


>After subscribing to the Ercoupe thread for several months, I would like
>to get some opinions.  My perception is that the Ercoupe and derivatives
>are maintenance hogs, or hanger queens.  Perhaps the only 'coupe owners
>who are active on the thread are those having problems or enjoy
>tinkering and the large majority are silently enjoying their coupes,
>with no significant problems.  Also, after checking Trade-A-Plane for
>quite a few months, I find that there are only a few Ercoupes listed
>each month versus a several pages of C-150/172's.  Of the 5000-6000
>built, are they so popular no one wants to sell or are most of them
>derelicts, beyond hope of redemption.
>
>I am retired AF and fly with the local military aero club where I can
>rent C-172's and T-41's for $45-50 an hour.  I'm getting really tired of
>the scheduling conflicts and BS that goes with any military organization
>so I'm looking for an alternative.  If I can't own and fly an Ercoupe
>cheaper than that, I'll stick with the aero club and perhaps build an
>experimental.
>
>I hope my perception is wrong and these are simple, fun, inexpensive
>planes to fly, and don't spend 99% of the time torn down in the hanger.
> I'd sure like to know before I jump in with both feet and buy money
>pit.
>
>Any comments, words of wisdom, etc. would be appreciated.
>Thanks to all,
>Dave in Alamogordo, NM


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