Hmmm ... I assume when we say ramp check we're discussing the plane, not the pilot, and probably a plane that is tied down and canopy covered.
There is nothing in 61.3 that says anything about letting some FAA weasel inspect your aircraft. I'd just walk away and insist they don't touch your plane. Like car thieves, if it's too much work they will go look for an easier target. I can't see that 61.3 involves the aircraft at all. As far as 61.3 goes, the stuff about any Federal, State, or local law enforcement officer is surely to spot drug haulers, as they have no other authority of any kind as far as flying goes. They can only bust you for smuggling coke - not for flying. By the way, it also says upon a reasonable request - not on demand. I would consult my AOPA lawyer before producing any document for inspection. You're not even required to have your logbook with you. Artie Langston [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bassace.com > Section 61.3 describes required documents which must be in your possession > for you to act as PIC (or whatever). here's a sample: > > 61.3(a) Pilot certificate. A person may not act as pilot flight crewmember > in > command or in any other capacity as a required pilot of a civil aircraft of > U.S. registry, unless that person has a valid pilot certificate or special > purpose pilot authorization issued under this part in that person's physical > possession or readily accessible in the aircraft when exercising the > privileges of that pilot certificate or authorization. > > 61.51(i) Presentation of required documents. > (1) Persons must present their > pilot certificate, medical certificate, logbook, or any other record > required > by this part for inspection upon a reasonable request by-- > (i) The Administrator; > (ii) An authorized representative from the National Transportation Safety > Board; or > (iii) Any Federal, State, or local law enforcement officer. > > So it doesn't have to be the FAA... > > Here's the "Hoover clause", note paragraph (b) > > Sec. 61.27 Voluntary surrender or exchange of certificate. > > (a) The holder of a certificate issued under this part may voluntarily > surrender it for: > (1) Cancellation; > (2) Issuance of a lower grade certificate; or > (3) Another certificate with specific ratings deleted. > (b) Any request made under paragraph (a) of this section must include the > following signed statement or its equivalent: "This request is made for my > own reasons, with full knowledge that my (insert name of certificate or > rating, as appropriate) may not be reissued to me unless I again pass the > tests prescribed for its issuance." > > So now you get to decide if it's voluntary or not. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: R.J. Chevalier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 2:06 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Ramp Check > > > > > > Does anyone know: > > If the FAA walks up to you on the ramp and requests to see > > your license and > > medical can you refuse? What happens if you do. > > > > This ought to get the juices flowing! > > > > Dick in Columbus NM. > > >
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