Yes. That is correct. Thank you for checking.

Jonah

On Thu., Jun. 10, 2021, 16:01 Markus Knauer, <mkna...@eclipsesource.com>
wrote:

> Just to double-check: My understanding is that we are using Jetty 10.0.5-
> *snapshot* for "early" testing in order to get some confidence that
> everything will work with the final Jetty 10.0.5 build. But our plan is to
> deliver the final Jetty 10.0.5 build, i.e. not the snapshot. Is that
> assumption correct?
>
> Thanks
> Markus
>
> On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 at 21:54, Jonah Graham <jo...@kichwacoders.com> wrote:
>
>> The simrel aggregator is reenabled (thanks Fred!), let's test the
>> snapshot there to give maximum confidence that what we have works.
>>
>> BTW to other projects not involved in this respin activity, please
>> continue to hold off changing simrel until after the release.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jonah
>>
>> On Thu., Jun. 10, 2021, 15:15 Jonah Graham, <jo...@kichwacoders.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Nitin,
>>>
>>> You can/should revert the change at the same time you provide a WTP
>>> build with Jetty 10.0.5 (snapshot or not).
>>>
>>> I can run the test locally, or we can all contribute our snapshot
>>> version to simrel and test there.
>>>
>>> @Frederic Gurr <frederic.g...@eclipse-foundation.org> has disabled the
>>> build, until it is reenabled we'll have to test locally and I am happy to
>>> do that.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jonah
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu., Jun. 10, 2021, 14:56 Nitin Dahyabhai, <thatnit...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm doing a build against the 10.0.5 snapshot. The
>>>> corresponding WTP jetty site has been updated to not have the SLF4J API
>>>> bundle in it. Yesterday we added the 10.0.4 site to the webtools.aggrcon to
>>>> provide the slf4j 2.0.0 alpha1 and unblock others; should I remove that
>>>> from the aggrcon file now so that we're not contributing that and 10.0.4
>>>> any more, or wait to do it until after your test, Jonah?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 1:52 PM Markus Knauer <
>>>> mkna...@eclipsesource.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We (RAP) are consuming the Jetty bundles from WTP (
>>>>> https://download.eclipse.org/webtools/jetty/...), and of course,
>>>>> other bundles from Platform.
>>>>> Therefore I'd like to wait until we can get the updated bundles from
>>>>> there. If the update appears in the next hours, I can trigger new RAP
>>>>> builds.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Markus
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 at 18:49, Jonah Graham <jo...@kichwacoders.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sravan has provided me with a link to what should represent
>>>>>> Platform's contribution based on the jetty snapshot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think we need to wait for a respin of the snapshot for the
>>>>>> source bundle issue that Sravan identified.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If other projects (RAP / Webtools/ Reddeer) can do the same, or
>>>>>> provide me with build instructions I can smoke test the integration of
>>>>>> everything in SimRel/EPP and make sure it all looks good and try to 
>>>>>> report
>>>>>> back to Jetty so they can make their release.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Jonah
>>>>>> ~~~
>>>>>> Jonah Graham
>>>>>> Kichwa Coders
>>>>>> www.kichwacoders.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 at 12:26, Sravan K Lakkimsetti <
>>>>>> sravankum...@in.ibm.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Triggered a platform build with latest 10.0.5-SNAPSHOT. But there is
>>>>>>> issue in the source bundles as they contain temporary files
>>>>>>> https://github.com/eclipse/jetty.project/issues/6354#issuecomment-858764165
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sravan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Jonah Graham <jo...@kichwacoders.com>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* 10 June 2021 21:36
>>>>>>> *To:* Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] ACTION
>>>>>>> REQUIRED from RAP / REDDEER / WEBTOOLS - respin of Eclipse Platform RC2a
>>>>>>> and the status on removing slf4j 2.0.0 alpha
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The snapshot is ready
>>>>>>> https://github.com/eclipse/jetty.project/issues/6354#issuecomment-858733158
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jonah
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu., Jun. 10, 2021, 10:23 Jonah Graham, <jo...@kichwacoders.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are making very good progress on resolving this issue, in no part
>>>>>>> thanks to everyone that has been super responsive in updating their 
>>>>>>> bits.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I checked all the EPP packages and (as expected) only JEE has
>>>>>>> slf4j.api_2.0.0.alpha1.jar. All the packages (also as expected)
>>>>>>> have org.slf4j.api_1.7.30.v20200204-2150.jar (including JEE).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Jetty project is just about to push out a snapshot (
>>>>>>> https://github.com/eclipse/jetty.project/issues/6390) of 10.0.5
>>>>>>> that fully resolves the slf4j 2.0.0 alpha1 dependency so that the SimRel
>>>>>>> and JEE package won't have alpha1 jar anymore.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To reduce the change of a turnaround time again we can collectively
>>>>>>> test that the 10.0.5 snapshot resolves all the issues. Note that this a
>>>>>>> further 10.0.5 snapshot than we had yesterday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RIght now, I don't know how to do this test without a full respin of
>>>>>>> everything (platform , redeer(?) , webtools, rap).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any suggestions are very welcome.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Jonah
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~~~
>>>>>>> Jonah Graham
>>>>>>> Kichwa Coders
>>>>>>> www.kichwacoders.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 at 16:56, Ondrej Dockal <odoc...@redhat.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jonah, thanks for taking care of this. If we will revert it after
>>>>>>> RedDeer is pushed, I think it is safe to give it a try. Also, If Jetty
>>>>>>> should be built somewhere with a fix it might provide a space for 
>>>>>>> updating
>>>>>>> all deps in all project, though, in quite late time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 10:45 PM Jonah Graham <jo...@kichwacoders.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Ondre/Nitin,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://git.eclipse.org/r/c/simrel/org.eclipse.simrel.build/+/181738
>>>>>>> decouples the reddeer contribution from webtools which means if you 
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> it is ok you can merge that so reddeer can be merged.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jonah
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~~~
>>>>>>> Jonah Graham
>>>>>>> Kichwa Coders
>>>>>>> www.kichwacoders.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 at 16:25, Jonah Graham <jo...@kichwacoders.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Ondrej,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AFAICT the problem is that WTP is also pulling in org.slf4j 2.0 from
>>>>>>> reddeer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 15:53:01 [0]Missing requirement: Jetty :: JNDI Naming 10.0.4
>>>>>>> (org.eclipse.jetty.jndi 10.0.4) requires 'java.package; org.slf4j
>>>>>>> [2.0.0,3.0.0)' but it could not be found
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So because you are (correctly) removing slf4j 2.0, it is
>>>>>>> unintentionally breaking WTP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nitin is working on fixing up the WTP contribution. I don't think
>>>>>>> there is actually anything wrong with reddeer's contribution, we just 
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>> a resolution of WTP first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will push a patch that verifies the above in a moment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jonah
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~~~
>>>>>>> Jonah Graham
>>>>>>> Kichwa Coders
>>>>>>> www.kichwacoders.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 at 16:15, Ondrej Dockal <odoc...@redhat.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately, I am still not able to pass aggregator validation,
>>>>>>> this time it is jetty complaining about missing org.slf4j [2.0.0,3.0.0) 
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> can be seen in [1]. I am not really sure about what I can do about it
>>>>>>> from my side. There is a reopened bugzilla [2] and PR on jetty project 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> handle this bundle dep. range for org.slf4j, but who knows when it will 
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> fixed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am trying in a meantime to omit any bundles from my plugins in
>>>>>>> release, not sure if that can help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1]:
>>>>>>> https://ci.eclipse.org/simrel/job/simrel.runaggregator.VALIDATE.gerrit/2274/console
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [2]: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=573454
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 6:47 PM Jonah Graham <jo...@kichwacoders.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ondrej,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think your analysis is correct. RAP tools publishes jetty to its
>>>>>>> p2 site, but does not include the slf4j so just happened to pick it up 
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> Platform until they removed it, now it picks it up from Reddeer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Markus,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not sure what the issues with removing slf4j 2.0.0 alpha is. Do you
>>>>>>> mean that RAP references it in too many places? If you mean too many
>>>>>>> projects, then you might be right, but I hope not. Hopefully with rap, 
>>>>>>> wtp,
>>>>>>> and reddeer making their update we can get rid of it from the 2021-06
>>>>>>> release entirely.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nitin,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the RC2 contribution of WTP only validated because
>>>>>>> Reddeer is still publishing slf4j 2.0.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jonah
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~~~
>>>>>>> Jonah Graham
>>>>>>> Kichwa Coders
>>>>>>> www.kichwacoders.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 at 10:55, Ondrej Dockal <odoc...@redhat.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gerrit aggregator validation job [1] is failing for me due to RAP
>>>>>>> requiring jetty 10.0.3 and that transitively requires slf4j in 2.0.0 +, 
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> guess I have to wait for you to update jetty deps to make it work, 
>>>>>>> right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1]:
>>>>>>> https://ci.eclipse.org/simrel/job/simrel.runaggregator.VALIDATE.gerrit/2247/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 4:50 PM Markus Knauer <
>>>>>>> mkna...@eclipsesource.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Switching to Jetty 10.0.4 seems to be doable for RAP, especially
>>>>>>> because the Webtools team was so kind to give us access to their p2
>>>>>>> repository for building. I will try that now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> slf4j 2.0.0 is a different issue. It was required until today, and
>>>>>>> is now referenced in too many places. I am not sure if it will be 
>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>> to remove it in a quick and safe manner in a last build towards RC2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Markus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 at 15:32, Jonah Graham <jo...@kichwacoders.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eclipse Platform have successfully updated their contribution*
>>>>>>> (Thanks Sravan, Thomas, Jetty team and anyone else who got this done 
>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>> don't know about!) *to SimRel to their RC2a build and that means
>>>>>>> that Eclipse Platform now no longer contributes the alpha 2.0.0 version.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However other projects still are contributing the bundle to simrel
>>>>>>> because they are republishing parts or all of Platform RC2 or earlier or
>>>>>>> jetty 10 from other sources.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can both *reddeer *and *rap *projects look at their contribution to
>>>>>>> ensure that they are not contributing slf4j 2.0.0 alpha to the simrel
>>>>>>> please.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As Platform have updated to Jetty 10.0.4, I also see that *rap* has
>>>>>>> Jetty 10.0.3 contributed to simrel and *webtools* has 10.0.2
>>>>>>> contributed to webtools. *All three versions* are in the simrel
>>>>>>> output repo!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jonah
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~~~
>>>>>>> Jonah Graham
>>>>>>> Kichwa Coders
>>>>>>> www.kichwacoders.com
>>>>>>>
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