> > I would really love to hear some examples from the security world.
> 
> The canonical example I was thinking of was Arthur Anderson, which
> doesn't meet your definition, I'm sure.


I would not wait for such clarity; the bond rating agencies still
live while the sovereigns they rated are busily defaulting.

--dan


It is criminal to steal a purse, daring to steal a fortune, a mark of
greatness to steal a crown. The blame diminishes as the guilt increases.
 -- Friedrich Schiller

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