Sure, apparently your expertise includes getting busted for cheating and
coming up with fancy profile names like "FAGGET". Surely a mature
conversationalist who wants to express his purely objective opinion on
whether or not something is a cheat here.
"I'm out." "You're dead to me."
On 08.10.2015 23:40, Brendan wrote:
Yeah, I'm also the same Brendan at Platinum Digital Group
(http://platinumdigitalgroup.net) so you would think I would know a
bit or two about this subject matter.
On Thursday, October 8, 2015, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek
<proph...@sticed.org <mailto:proph...@sticed.org>> wrote:
Because obviously this is the csgo_servers list.
BTW are you by any chance this brenhein?
http://bans.trashedgamers.org/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=brenhein&advType=name
Nice try, bb.
On 08.10.2015 23:22, Brendan wrote:
But this software does not make it more available, it just
displays information in a different way. I don't see how this
discourse is "derailing" because it is directly related to the topic.
On Thursday, October 8, 2015, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek
<proph...@sticed.org
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','proph...@sticed.org');>> wrote:
By saying that a software or modification that meets this
criteria is not a cheat:
-Anything that takes information that is available on the
client-side in some way (hey, that would include all hacks)
and makes it (more) available to the player.
Feel free to personally email me outside this list if you
require more explanation. I'm not participating in further
derailment here, which I have the feeling is your actual
intention.
On 08.10.2015 23:04, Brendan wrote:
Where exactly did I say those were not cheats?
On Thursday, October 8, 2015, Matthias "InstantMuffin"
Kollek <proph...@sticed.org> wrote:
According to you the following things are not cheats:
-Material hacks that recolor players so they can be
spotted more easily
-Aim assist (because hey, that's where the player wanted
to aim anyway)
-Changing footstep sounds
-Anything that takes information that is available on
the client-side in some way (hey, that would include all
hacks) and makes it (more) available to the player.
You should know that compared to predators (i.e. cats)
the human brain is pretty inaccurate when it comes to
localizing sounds. This gets exaggerated by the
individual sound setup, as we position sounds by how
much time difference the brain is able to measure
between the sound reaching both ears and the difference
in volume. Plus, true surround sound headsets do not
exist (manufacturers claim of having 5.1 capable
products, however the number of individual speakers is
below that). Shitty on-board sound which almost
everybody uses adds to this as well. I doubt the source
engine actually delays the arrival of sound between the
two ears according to positions (it would be nice to
know), so the localization would solely be based on the
volume difference.
Now if I turn down the music volume, I have the overall
ambient sound (which I can ignore), and the sounds of
all player interactions. So there is actually barely any
noise to distinguish. This is f-ing accurate, even in a
non-competitive crowded setting Sonic Radar Demo 720
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSZbQK4RAgQ> Asus Sonic
Radar II - Counter Strike Global Offensive by PCLab.pl
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QYR9DiqeE4>
@Michael: I think you should email this to a dev then,
or whoever is responsible for vac.
On 08.10.2015 22:19, Brendan wrote:
This software is not a cheat. This software simply
displays information that the player already has in a
different way. According to demos I've seen, this
software is not capable of distinguishing footsteps
from ambient sounds, actions, and music. That means a
player would have to distinguish signal (footsteps)
from a huge amount of noise. Our brains already have
very accurate algorithms to determine the direction
sound is coming from. This software is really nothing
more then a marketing gimmick.
Have you ever considered that the individual in your
clan is using actual cheats and using this software as
an excuse for only playing MM and not leagues? I have
a hard time believing that this software could give any
sort of significant edge.
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On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Matthias
"InstantMuffin" Kollek <proph...@sticed.org
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','proph...@sticed.org');>>
wrote:
I thought this was csgo_servers?
You might be better off mentioning this on reddit
or directly asking tournament officials about this.
But yes, this sounds like a cheat. ("I get it!")
On 08.10.2015 20:10, Michael Loveless wrote:
I'm curious what some of you think about this?
http://rog.asus.com/technology/rog-sound-innovations/sonic-radar/
I'm finding out that someone in my clan has been
using this for quite some time. The kid has the
game sense of a cheese sandwich but always knows
where people are. He plays in no competitive
leagues at all, just a matchmaking god.
Right in it's description in the link it tells you
flat out that it gives you an advantage in certain
scenarios and also enhances/pinpoints footstep sound.
Here is a snippet from the link that bothers me
the most:
"Sonic radar gives a strategic advantage on some
very particular moments such as:
- being threatened from outside the gamers sight
range (draw distance)"
That is fucked. It's completely toggleable as
well. Maybe someone here has better insight on
this and why it's allowed when on the surface it
seems to be on the same level as ESP, radar, or
any other cheat that detects players positions.
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