Wow man I must have really got into you. I apologize if I offended you in any way, if I did it was certainly not intentional. I did not mean to offend you but merely discuss the topic at hand.
On Thursday, October 8, 2015, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek < proph...@sticed.org> wrote: > Sure, apparently your expertise includes getting busted for cheating and > coming up with fancy profile names like "FAGGET". Surely a mature > conversationalist who wants to express his purely objective opinion on > whether or not something is a cheat here. > > "I'm out." "You're dead to me." > > On 08.10.2015 23:40, Brendan wrote: > > Yeah, I'm also the same Brendan at Platinum Digital Group ( > http://platinumdigitalgroup.net) so you would think I would know a bit or > two about this subject matter. > > On Thursday, October 8, 2015, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek < > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','proph...@sticed.org');>proph...@sticed.org > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','proph...@sticed.org');>> wrote: > >> Because obviously this is the csgo_servers list. >> BTW are you by any chance this brenhein? >> http://bans.trashedgamers.org/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=brenhein&advType=name >> Nice try, bb. >> >> On 08.10.2015 23:22, Brendan wrote: >> >> But this software does not make it more available, it just displays >> information in a different way. I don't see how this discourse is >> "derailing" because it is directly related to the topic. >> >> On Thursday, October 8, 2015, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek < >> proph...@sticed.org> wrote: >> >>> By saying that a software or modification that meets this criteria is >>> not a cheat: >>> >>> -Anything that takes information that is available on the client-side in >>> some way (hey, that would include all hacks) and makes it (more) available >>> to the player. >>> >>> Feel free to personally email me outside this list if you require more >>> explanation. I'm not participating in further derailment here, which I have >>> the feeling is your actual intention. >>> >>> On 08.10.2015 23:04, Brendan wrote: >>> >>> Where exactly did I say those were not cheats? >>> >>> On Thursday, October 8, 2015, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek < >>> proph...@sticed.org> wrote: >>> >>>> According to you the following things are not cheats: >>>> >>>> -Material hacks that recolor players so they can be spotted more easily >>>> -Aim assist (because hey, that's where the player wanted to aim anyway) >>>> -Changing footstep sounds >>>> >>>> -Anything that takes information that is available on the client-side >>>> in some way (hey, that would include all hacks) and makes it (more) >>>> available to the player. >>>> >>>> You should know that compared to predators (i.e. cats) the human brain >>>> is pretty inaccurate when it comes to localizing sounds. This gets >>>> exaggerated by the individual sound setup, as we position sounds by how >>>> much time difference the brain is able to measure between the sound >>>> reaching both ears and the difference in volume. Plus, true surround sound >>>> headsets do not exist (manufacturers claim of having 5.1 capable products, >>>> however the number of individual speakers is below that). Shitty on-board >>>> sound which almost everybody uses adds to this as well. I doubt the source >>>> engine actually delays the arrival of sound between the two ears according >>>> to positions (it would be nice to know), so the localization would solely >>>> be based on the volume difference. >>>> Now if I turn down the music volume, I have the overall ambient sound >>>> (which I can ignore), and the sounds of all player interactions. So there >>>> is actually barely any noise to distinguish. This is f-ing accurate, even >>>> in a non-competitive crowded setting Sonic Radar Demo 720 >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSZbQK4RAgQ> Asus Sonic Radar II - >>>> Counter Strike Global Offensive by PCLab.pl >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QYR9DiqeE4> >>>> >>>> @Michael: I think you should email this to a dev then, or whoever is >>>> responsible for vac. >>>> >>>> On 08.10.2015 22:19, Brendan wrote: >>>> >>>> This software is not a cheat. This software simply displays >>>> information that the player already has in a different way. According to >>>> demos I've seen, this software is not capable of distinguishing footsteps >>>> from ambient sounds, actions, and music. That means a player would have to >>>> distinguish signal (footsteps) from a huge amount of noise. Our brains >>>> already have very accurate algorithms to determine the direction sound is >>>> coming from. This software is really nothing more then a marketing >>>> gimmick. >>>> >>>> Have you ever considered that the individual in your clan is using >>>> actual cheats and using this software as an excuse for only playing MM and >>>> not leagues? I have a hard time believing that this software could give >>>> any sort of significant edge. >>>> ________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek < >>>> proph...@sticed.org >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','proph...@sticed.org');>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I thought this was csgo_servers? >>>>> You might be better off mentioning this on reddit or directly asking >>>>> tournament officials about this. >>>>> >>>>> But yes, this sounds like a cheat. ("I get it!") >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 08.10.2015 20:10, Michael Loveless wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'm curious what some of you think about this? >>>>> >>>>> <http://rog.asus.com/technology/rog-sound-innovations/sonic-radar/> >>>>> http://rog.asus.com/technology/rog-sound-innovations/sonic-radar/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm finding out that someone in my clan has been using this for quite >>>>> some time. The kid has the game sense of a cheese sandwich but always >>>>> knows where people are. He plays in no competitive leagues at all, just a >>>>> matchmaking god. >>>>> >>>>> Right in it's description in the link it tells you flat out that it >>>>> gives you an advantage in certain scenarios and also enhances/pinpoints >>>>> footstep sound. >>>>> >>>>> Here is a snippet from the link that bothers me the most: >>>>> >>>>> "Sonic radar gives a strategic advantage on some very particular >>>>> moments such as: >>>>> >>>>> - being threatened from outside the gamers sight range (draw distance)" >>>>> >>>>> That is fucked. It's completely toggleable as well. Maybe someone here >>>>> has better insight on this and why it's allowed when on the surface it >>>>> seems to be on the same level as ESP, radar, or any other cheat that >>>>> detects players positions. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Csgo_servers mailing >>>>> listCsgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.comhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Csgo_servers mailing >>>> listCsgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.comhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> ________________ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csgo_servers mailing >>> listCsgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.comhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> ________________ >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing >> listCsgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.comhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> >> >> > > -- > ________________ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Csgo_servers mailing listcsgo_serv...@list.valvesoftware.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com');>https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers > > > -- ________________
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