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June:
Excellent post! Very few people are aware of the pagan origins of modern
Christian observances such as Christ-Mass. (Everyone should check out the
origin of the use of Christmas trees!) Your words are, as usual,
brilliantly enlightening in a non-threatening manner. Someone should take
lessons from you :-)
BTW, wasn't there a study some years ago pertaining to the calculation of
Christ's birth around the Roman census--purportedly between January and April?
Edward ><>
>On Fri, 25 Dec 1998, MShrum wrote:
>>Remember, contrary to what the advertisers and the media would have
>>you believe, this is not a "holiday." It is a religious observance
>>[the term they always use for our Arab friends: Ramadan]. Christmas is
>>to honor the birth of the Christ child.
>
>Well, to begin with, the term 'holiday' comes from the contraction of the
>word 'holy day', so your objection to the word is meaningless.
>
>Secondly, there is NOTHING about December 25th that has ANYTHING to do
>with the birth of Jesus the Christ, except that the Roman Catholic church
>decided to put a 'Christian' veneer on pre-existing pagan celebrations of
>the season...
>
>Evidence points to either a spring or an early autumnal birthdate for
>Jesus the Christ (currently, spring is favored in scholarly circles,
>based on a comet which would have been visible in the spring of 5 BCE...
>but other evidence in the past has been used to argue for an early autumn
>birthdate)...
>
>Either way, the beginning of winter could NOT have been the actual birth
>date of Jesus the Christ...it was a date that fell in the middle of the
>ancient Roman Saturnalia...it was also the date the followers of Mithras
>claimed was the birthdate of Mithras...and it also roughly corresponded
>with the Yule festivities of the pagan northern European tribes..
>
>So the Church, after centuries of trying to BAN Christians from
>participating in the various early winter festivals of their particular
>geographical area, adopted an "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" attitude,
>and 'allowed' the festivals to continue, as long as the participants put
>a 'Christian' interpretation to things...hence, holly was explained to
>represent Christ's crown of thorns, etc.
>
>But you would have been hard-pressed to find anything resembling our
>modern holiday...even more hard-pressed to find anything representing a
>RELIGIOUS OBSERVANCE, other than a possible midnight Mass (which gave the
>name to the holiday, e.g. "Christ's Mass")...most festivities more
>closely resembled modern-day Mardi Gras, with people dressing in costume,
>and a wild, licentious, lascivious time being enjoyed by all...
>
>EASTER is the main holiday of the Christian church, the observance which
>gives the religion it's whole meaning, and not Christmas...
>
>
>
>> HAPPY HANNAKAH AND A VERY BLESSED CHRISTMAS!
>
>You're 2 weeks late on Hannukah...
>
>
>June
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