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From: "nessie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I'm offended that someone would show so little respect for the harmonious
> cohesion of this often valuable resource we share.  Are you being
> disruptive on purpose, or don't you realize what you're doing?

I found nothing disrespectful nor disruptive in the original post.


> When people come in hear and act disruptive, anything I do in response is
> not an attack, it's a defense. This happens fairly often. We're trying to
> accomplish something here. You're disrupting our effort. Why?

What is disruptive in sending a verbatim news article?


> But what's the  connection here? Why bring up recovered memory? Is this MP
> case a recovered memory case?

Since the alleged victims are only just now remembering the alleged incidents, it 
would seem to possibly be a
case of recovered memory...


> >The wording was quoted verbatim from the article.
>
> So what? It doesn't matter where it came from. It matters where it ended
> up. Why did you post it in its entirety? A summation would have sufficed.

I beg to differ.  I'd much rather read the article myself, than have it filtered 
through someone's subjected
summation...


> Even warning posted over a blank screen would have been polite. That way
> people who wanted to read it could have paged down to it. That way people
> who open the post without knowing what was in it would be spared, if they
> chose, from having to look at it.

The subject heading was pretty clear regarding what the subject matter was 
about...what did you expect to
find, Mother Goose rhymes?


> But not everyone here feels as I do. Some people wish to limit what they
> see. Would it hurt so much to be a little polite to them?

Yes, because you are asking us to selectively censor postings.  Almost anything posted 
on this list can
potentially offend someone else...so where do we draw the line?


> It's a small
> thing. Show a little respect. You're in their home, often in their
> bedroom. That's their turf. You're a guest. Show respect for the local
> customs.

We are not in their homes.  Rather we all are leaving our homes and entering a 
semi-public 'club' set up by
the list owner.  In 'real life', if one doesn't like the atmosphere of a club then one 
shouldn't patronize
that establishment...but one doesn't have the right to enter such an establishment and 
demand that the patrons
alter either their behavior or their speech to suit the offended person.

Your argument reminds me of an acquaintance who once complained about some cable 
channel broadcasting the
Paris Lido show...the broadcast always occured during the wee hours of the morning, 
but my friend got all
upset over the idea of children seeing the skimpily-clad showgirls...

My friend's own child never saw it...no, what had her upset was the fact that she had 
learned that her
neighbors watched the show, and that often-times the neighbors' child would wake up in 
the middle of the night
and come join his parents while they were watching this broadcast...

So this person wanted the show off the air because she thought it was terrible that 
this neighbor's child
occasionally saw the show...

And she couldn't understand it when I pointed out that this was a cable channel...one 
had to PAY to receive
it, it wasn't available via general broadcast -- so it was the CHOICE of these 
neighbors of hers to pay for
the channel that broadcast this show, just as it was the choice of my friend NOT to 
pay for that channel.  It
was also the neighbor's choice to stay up late and tune in that particular channel.  
It was also their choice
to allow their son to wake up and come out and join them while they watched the show, 
rather than sending him
back to bed.

It is all a matter of CHOICE.  If one doesn't like the subject matter on either the 
channel or the email list,
one has the choice not to watch/read.  One also has the choice not to even receive it, 
if it offends them so
much.

But don't go taking away the CHOICE of the rest of us to be able to read anything...


> Otherwise, you will drive some of these people off of this list and out of
> my life and I will be very angry about it because I value access to what
> they bring to to the list.

Quite frankly, most of the ones who are complaining the loudest have rarely 
contributed much of value to this
list...


> Do not drive them away by flaunting things you know will alienate them

How was the person who sent the article to the list to know that it would 'alienate' 
the lily-livered whiners?


> Choice is the issue here. If some of the people on this list want a choice
> as to whether or not to have stuff like that in their face, we ought to
> give them the choice. You ought to give them the choice.

And yet you are actually arguing for the taking away of that right.  A subject heading 
of "MP child rapist"
should have suggested to you all that what was too follow wasn't an ode to Christopher 
Robin...


June

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