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At 03:34 PM 7/7/01 -0700, Nessie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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>
>>George  Bush did not make a secret flight to Spain in an SR-71 to make
>a deal with the Iranians.
>
>
>That's one opinion.

And a pretty darn compelling opinion.  If Bush puts on his fully
pressurized astronaut suit,
jumps on an SR-71 at Washington National
Airport, climbs out of the D.C. commercial air traffic pattern in a
supersonic jet on full afterburner,
breaks all the plate glass windows in Maryland and Virginia, and flies to
Madrid in two hours,
lands with a fleet of aerial tankers to hold all the fuel he burns and
unmarked military cargo planes to
hold the special ground support equipment that an SR-71 requires  (you
can't just taxi up to the jetway
in an SR-71) , don't  you think someone might notice.

>
>It was blatantly illegal.

Why would a leftie quibble about a little illegality.  Let's not say that
the support of the
Contra's was "illegal".   That's so-o-o judgemental.  Let's just call it
"undocumented".
You know, like "undocumented immigrants",


>Are you saying it’s alright to break the law
>if the cause is just? if so, I agree.

OK.  So why the hell are you roasting Ollie North?

>However, this was not a just
>cause.

Because  the New York Times never told you it was "just cause"?

>The contras were drug dealing fascists. They went through the
>motions of waging war to cover their drug dealing.

You mean they did things like fly drugs into Mena, Arkansas?
As Arkansas governer William Clinton said, "that was Lassiter's deal".
So, why are you blaming this on the Contras's?

>But they seldom
>engaged the regular army.

Well, duh-uh.  The Sandinista "regular army" had Mig jets, Hind assault
helicopters,
and tanks courtesy of the Soviet Union and Cuba.  George Washington would
not have
engaged that regular army either.   So what's your point?  That the
Contra's were not
as militarily stupid as you think they should have been?

Mainly they murdered unarmed civilians in cold
>blood and then ran for it.
>

Why, didn't the Viet Cong do the same thing?  You LIKED the Viet Cong,
didn't you?



>And the fascist-symp in the U.S. media told us over and over again how
>the  Nicaraguan people really loved the contras and they were the moral
>equivalent of the Founding Fathers.

Even fascist-symps can be right.  What's a fascist, anyway?  It's just a
made-up
word to smear people that Commies don't like

>
>>When the Nicaraguan  people actually had a chance to vote, they threw
>the Red bastards out.
>
>By a razor thin margin in a fixed election.
>

Well, it's at least a higher standard than advocated by Al Gore, who thinks he
should have won an election he lost by a razor thin margin but tried to fix
after
the fact.


>This is not to say that the Sandanistas had no faults. They had, and
>continue to have, plenty.

Which is why thoughtful, well informed, fair-minded people concluded that the
Contra's were the legitimate expression of the interests of the Nicaraguan
people.

DBC

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