On Monday, October 28, 2002, at 10:51  AM, Tyler Durden wrote:

Well, the possibility of using 802.11b had occurred to me, but right now I would think it's too vulnerable. First of all, there will be a visible and stationary box somewhere. Second, this has to exist at the termination of either a DSL link, cable modem, or T1/fractional T1. All of these infrastrctural elements will theoreically be identified by the Power that Be.
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My notion was that Bob, who receives Alice's WiFi signal, is also using a laptop, which he simply walks off with. He doesn't need a DSL or cablemodem or whatever.

For real-time video, the Alice-Bob setup still works better than Alice trying to broadcast by herself directly, as Bob is the unseen (by the TP) confederate.

But him walking off and uploading a short time later still accomplishes the end of getting the video out. Real-time is overrated.

Yeah, the authorities could violate the 4th A. and simply seize _all_ laptops. I imagine some of the Official Reporters in the crowd would raise a stink.

(On a peripherally-related note, the absurdity of the BrinWorld idea has always been the strange notion Brin has that video cameras would be allowed inside the White House, inside the NSA, inside the Pentagon, or even inside the local police station. The monopoly on force employed by government ensures that they will have cameras surveilling _us_ but not vice versa. Relying on laws to somehow let the cops and narcs and spies be surveilled by us is naive.)

As for the guy who posted about the Japanese kids, I would think that's a 3G-type application, but it of course doesn't have to be.
3G is having problems, according to a news item I saw this weekend. Apparently a bunch of analysts and journalists were invited to Helsinki or somesuch to get a demo of the 3G and video capabilities. The demos failed, and Nokia and others were forced to show simulated capabilities.

Meanwhile, France and other Europe nations are looking for EU bailouts of their telecom industries. France Telecom has a staggering debt, partly due to paying so much for 3G licenses while the bubble was still inflating.

The mention by another poster about how advanced Japan is should be seen in this context: a massive public spending surge. Japan is of course entering the basket case stage, for various reasons familiar to list members.

--Tim May
"You don't expect governments to obey the law because of some higher moral development. You expect them to obey the law because they know that if they don't, those who aren't shot will be hanged." - -Michael Shirley



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