On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 06:42:22PM -0600, Mirimir wrote: > On 08/28/2016 06:11 PM, juan wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 17:13:27 -0600 > > Mirimir <miri...@riseup.net> wrote: > > > >> Well, without regulation, you have assholes adulterating > > > > Are you joking or has your account been hacked? > > I could say the same for you, sometimes ;) > > > Your examples are a mix of nonsense with instances of black > > market 'techniques' - black markets being a government > > 'unintended' consequence of course. > > Those are all true examples. The sugar stuff happened long before there > was any regulation. More generally, adulteration of food with poisonous > metal salts was a key driver for food regulation.
Since, of course, "food regulation with monopoly coercive powers" was the only dichomatic solution! Putting evil doers in jail, forcing compensation by those companies that profited from evil food doing, such "solutions" are not meant to be part of the conversation - be careful now, the Ministry might jail you for heathen speakin! > > Allegedly the romans used lead acetate instead of sugar, and I > > doubt it's cheaper now. Fentanyl is a 'recreational drug' on > > its own right. It may be used to 'spike' heroin if it's more > > available, but it's not as if 'pure' heroin is 'healthy' > > anyway. Et cetera. > > Pure heroin is just fine :) I do agree that everything should be legal. Good start. > But it should also be tested, and poisoners put in jail or killed. With a blunt finish. OK. Here's the deal: You use the word "should"; this implies a "right" or perhaps "duty" by some "external authority" (for the pure randomness of it, let's call that "government") to exercise the "should" and thereby "protect the poor helpless and defenseless heathensheeple". Do you see the problem we Western schooled humans have with our Engrish? > >> sugar with > >> lead acetate, just because it happens to cost less. That used to be > >> fairly common, back in the day. Or assholes spiking their "vodka" with > >> methanol. Or assholes spiking their "heroin" with fentanyl, or > >> whatever opiate agonist they can get cheapest. Or assholes spiking > >> their dried milk with melamine, to boost apparent protein content. > >> Etc etc etc. > >> > >> I suppose that AP could handle that. But many customers will get > >> fucked up before bids get high enough to take out sellers. Or we > >> could have private enforcement handle regulation. Regulation as a > >> service ;) > > > > > > Or counsumers could use some 'due diligence' > > Do you know how to test your sugar for lead, Juan? Or your dried milk > for melamine? Or your ethanol for methanol? No. But I do know folks who know how to, and whom I trust. I also know I am capable, if with a lot of research reading and learning, to be competent to do so. I also have faith that fully deregulated, or rather de-coerced, markets will have such voids amply filled. I hear (others say) that in Copenhagen clubs, patrons would rarely consider purchasing MDMA from any "street seller" ever - only from the club itself, and to top it off, these clubs also provide or sell "testing kits" to test either your own or the club's MDMA. We live a sheltered life in most of the West..
