Michael,
   Thanks for the reference and comment.  That does answer part of the
question I had.
   This still leaves me wondering whether the DBpedia ontology is being
intentionally kept small (rather than representing all of the classes
described in Wikipedia) for performance reasons, or because the effort of
trying to make the ontology accurate while expanding it substantially is too
large for the existing team.  If the latter, perhaps I can help in that
task.  If there are performance issues, I would like to get more detail to
see just how serious an expansion of the ontology would be for the existing
usages.

   The other issue raised by the discussion in the FAQ at the GoodRelations
page you cited is - just what should the semantics of a Wikipedia article
be?  At present, the "type" relation is used, and that make it appear odd
for traditional ontology structure, when the Wikipedia article describes a
class of things rather than an individual.  It seems (to me) that it would
be more appropriate to use a relation of the type "isaDiscussionOf" (where
the main topic of the article is exactly the same as the intended class of
the Wikipedia), or "isaDiscussionOfaSubtypeOf" where there is no
corresponding DBpedia ontology entry for that class, but the class described
can be related to a broader class in the ontology.  The "type" relation
might still be used, but to be consistent with the notion of Wikipedia
articles being discussions rather than the individuals described it might be
better to use a relation such as "isDiscussionOfanInstanceOf" to point to
the class of the entity discussed.  Then, the articles would all have the
semantics of articles rather than of the entities described by the articles.

   I do recall someone (not sure who) mentioning that this issue of the
proper semantics for articles has been an issue, but I don't recall in what
context.  I suppose it may well have been a hot topic for the DBpedia
community at some time.  I apologize that I am quite new to this community,
so do not know the history.

   But unless there are performance issues that are truly insurmountable, it
seems to me not to be difficult to get the semantics right so that the
ontology can grow to accurately reflect properties and relations of the
entities discussed by Wikipedia.  And I will be willing to help in that
task.


   Or . . .  is this a task that has consciously been left to the
GoodRelations group?

  Pat

Patrick Cassidy
MICRA Inc.
cass...@micra.com
908-561-3416


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Brunnbauer [mailto:bru...@netestate.de] 
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 10:35 AM
To: Patrick Cassidy
Cc: dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] DBpedia ontology


Hello Pat,

DBpedia is not an ontology - it is a dataset of instance data that partly
uses
an ontology created by the DBpedia team.

The Instance data (ABox) has the namespace http://dbpedia.org/resource/ -
e.g.
 
 http://dbpedia.org/resource/Albatross

The Ontology (TBox) has the namespace http://dbpedia.org/ontology/ - e.g.

 http://dbpedia.org/ontology/Bird

I agree with you that it would be nice if many DBpedia entries would be
classes
with proper subclassing instead of individuals. But as DBpedia data is
generated automatically from Wikipedia, I guess it would be quite difficult
to keep this consistent.

You are not the first one to notice these deficiencies in the use of
DBpedia,
see "Frequently Asked Questions" on http://www.productontology.org/

Regards,

Michael Brunnbauer



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