* On 2013 16 Jun 07:59 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Yes, this is a "consumers" mailing list. And if "consumers" can't > pass along what they want for the future, Debian will quickly lose > users to distros which do listen.
Debian does listen since its developers are its users as well. You may get more traction on the developers' mailing list with a respectful tone as few of the Debain Developers are subscribed here. > I think this discussion is quite appropriate for "consumers" to have > on a "consumers" mailing list. Especially since they will quickly > get chased off the developers mailing lists for asking such a > question. Actually, what sparked this subthread is something that Debian has very little control over--what upstream package developers choose for their depedencies. The upstream developers are who you must convince to use DB "M1", "M2" "P", "S" or whatever. But remember this, just like GUI toolkits offer differing functionality, so do database engines and developers choose accordingly. The complaint against Debian in this case is quite misplaced, IMHO, as the only leverage Debian has against certain dependencies is the DFSG. All that said, I am also annoyed by some package (CQRlog) that uses MySQL and starts a private instance of the server that lasts until the program is shut down but yet I get a full-blown MySQL installation with a server running that I'll never use. But once the SysV init link is changed from S to K it's no longer a problem. At least that control is available. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130616142700.gs6...@n0nb.us