On Sun, 16 Jun 2013, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> Pretty much ANY distro which listens better than the Debian
> developers will gain at the loss of Debian.
> 
> That's the way the world is going.  If you don't deliver what users
> want, someone else will.
> 
> It's not like back in the 80's when there were limited options and
> even more limited support.  The growth of the internet has changed
> all that.
> 
> And it may not be distros which even exist today.  People don't like
> what's happening, they can spin something else off.  You can't lock
> people in like before.

Hmm, Debian has never cared for locking in people.  In fact, upstream Debian
(which _is_ what it supported here) is pretty much a distribution matrix.

We are actually happy to have people derive other distributions from Debian,
we even have infrastructure to help them do it.

The Debian way is to provide mariadb packages, and keep providing Oracle
mysql packages.  We'll do away with Oracle mysql when the day comes that it
is unfeasible or extremely undesireable to keep providing them, or nobody
wants to deal with them.  I _do_ believe this day will come in a 5-year
timeframe.

What we would probably do:

0. add mariadb packages.

1. Rename mysql* to mysql-oracle*, provide msyql-* "transitional" packages
that depend on the oracle ones first, but accepts the mariadb ones as an
alternative.

2. Someday, *maybe*, if the situation warrants it, change the mysql-*
packages to point to mariadb packages as the primary (or only?) choice
instead.  And eventually, remove the mysql-oracle* packages if the situation
warrants it.  This might never happen, or it might happen soon.

Obviously, none of this will happen unless someone uploads high-quality
mariadb packages to Debian unstable as the first step...

-- 
  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh


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