On 6/7/24 18:12, David Christensen wrote:
On 6/6/24 22:14, gene heskett wrote:
In experimenting I've found a name clash, there are appprently two orca's. one is a speech synth, one is a slicer for 3d printers I don't use. Typing orca in a shell locks the shell wo any output, for several minutes but comes back to a prompt with a ctl-c, so I've NDC which was being executed. Whatevver, the installation is quite voluminous:
gene@coyote:~/AppImages$ locate orca |wc -l
1560

So I took orca out, which took gnome out. But now gnomes dependencies will put orca back in. So now I can't run autoremove. So one more time this broken damned bookworm install has bit me in a rear.

No Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.


Here are my installation notes from when I migrated my daily driver from Debian 9 to Debian 11.  It has orca, and orca has never bothered me:

January 9, 2022

1.  Wipe Intel SSD 520 Series 60 GB drive in Intel DQ67SW.  Insert
     debian-11.2.0-amd64-netinst USB flash drive into USB 3.0 port
     adjacent Gigabit port. Boot:

     Debian GNU/Linux installer menu (BIOS mode)
                     install
     Language            C
     Continent or region        North America
     Country, territory or area    United States
     Keymap to use            American English
     Hostname            laalaa
     Domain name            tracy.holgerdanske.com
     Root password            ********
     Re-enter password        ********
     Full name for new user        debian
     Username for your account    debian
     Choose a password        ********
     Re-enter password        ********
     Select your time zone        Pacific
     Partitioning method        Manual
      Select a partition...    SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) - 60.0 GB ATA INTEL SSDSC2CW06
         Create partition table    Yes
       Select a partition...        pri/log 60.0 GB FREE SPACE
         Create a new partition
           New partition size    1 GB
           Type            Primary
           Location            Beginning
           Partition settings
         Use as            Ext4 journaling file system
         Mount point        /boot
         Mount options        defaults
         Label            laalaa_boot
         Reserved blocks        5%
         Typical usage        standard
         Bootable flag        on
         Done setting up the partition
       Select a partition...        pri/log 59.0 GB FREE SPACE
         Create a new partition
           New partition size    1 GB
           Type            Primary
           Location            Beginning
           Partition settings
         Use as            physical volume for encryption
         Encryption method    Device-mapper (dm-crypt)
         Encryption        aes
         Key size        256
         IV algorithm        xts-plain64
         Encryption key        Random key
         Erase data        no
         Bootable flag        off
         Done setting up the partition
       Select a partition...        pri/log 58.0 GB FREE SPACE
         Create a new partition
           New partition size    13 GB
           Type            Primary
           Location            Beginning
           Partition settings
         Use as            physical volume for encryption
         Encryption method    Device-mapper (dm-crypt)
         Encryption        aes
         Key size        256
         IV algorithm        xts-plain64
         Encryption key        Passphrase
         Erase data        no
         Bootable flag        off
         Done setting up the partition
       Configure encrypted volumes
         Write the changes to disk    Yes
         Encryption configuration    Create encrypted volumes
         Devices to encrypt
           [*] /dev/sda2 (1000MB; crypto)
           [*] /dev/sda3 (13000MB; crypt)
         Continue
         Encryption configuration    Finish
         Encryption passphrase    ********
         Re-enter passphrase        ********
       Select a partition...        #1 13.0 GB f ext4
         Partition settings
           Use as            Ext4 journaling file system
           Mount point        /
           Mount options        defaults
           Label            laalaa_root
           Reserved blocks        5%
           Typical usage        standard
           Done setting up the partition
       Finish partitioning and write changes to disk
         Write the changes to disks    Yes
     Debian archive mirror country    United States
     Debian archive mirror        deb.debian.org
     HTTP proxy information        <blank>
     Package usage survey        No
     Choose software            Debian desktop environment
                         Xfce
                     SSH server
                     standard system utiilties
     Device for boot loader installation
                     /dev/sdb (ata-INTEL_SSDSC2CW060A3_********)
     Installation complete        Continue

     Push and hold power button at POST; release when computer turns
     off.  Remove USB flash drive.

2.  Take image:
<snip>


I may have installed only once in the past 2 years, ~4 months, but I have blown up that computer many times.  The key is defense in depth -- OS configuration files and data working directories in a networked version control system (CVS) with the repository on another computer, OS disk images, OS and data backups, IMAP backups of incoming and outgoing messages, etc..


Did you ever build that dedicated backup server?  I recall you buying a bunch of 2 TB 2.5" SATA SSD's for crazy cheap that turned out to be counterfeit, but do not recall any news since then.

Those IIRC got stored in the round file, and I bought a big pile of 2T gigastones that were good. The raid10 and all it samsung 870 1T drives is still working despite 2 of the 4 samsungs reporting lots of errors, its been rsynced to one of the gigastones and fstab adjusted to make it /home. That had zero effect on the 30 second or more lockup opening a gfx file for editing. But I've had 3d printer problems in wholesale qty's, so no actual progress on the pi cloned backup server has been made. The 3d printer probs are preventing the launch of a small business because of the delays in making product.>

David

Thanks David.

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Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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 - Louis D. Brandeis

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