I do not monitor my hold directory manually. I have a program the sends and
email to all the users that have held email from the previous day with a
recovery link for each message. The user has the option to recover the
mesage or not. If they recover the message it is requeued and then
delivered. A copy of the message source is also sent to our abuse@ email
address to be analyzed and adjusted or to notify the admin of the sending
server of the problem.

Most of the messages that get held with our configuration fail due to SFP,
HELOBOGUS, and RDNS otherwise I have very few false positives from filters
to adjust for. I do not adjust for IP4 black list failures a server would
have to be in 2 or 3 black lists to be held.



Kevin Bilbee






> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:39 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail Held email recovery
>
>
> Well, I guess our goals differ.
>
> So although with IMail+Declude you can re-queue without scanning (your
> way) as well as re-queue with scanning (my way), I choose to re-queue
> with scanning AND fix the reason why the message was held.
>
> Re-queuing with scanning forces me to fix it, and I also try to fix it
> so that it is also fixed for future messages.
>
> So, while we wait for an official answer to your question (Hello,
> Declude?) can you tell us why you want to re-queue without scanning?
>
> Andrew 8)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:04 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail Held email recovery
>
>
> SmarterMail executes declude allover again.
>
> >
> > I never simply re-queue for delivery a message that was held.  I
> > always re-queue such that Declude would scan it again.
>
> When you requeue a message with Imail the only thing you need to do it
> move the D and Q files to the spool folder, they will not be rescanned
> by declude.
>
> >
> > Which implies that I must also do something about my Declude
> > configuration to counterweight this and future messages from the same
> > sender, e.g. with a REVDNS or a REMOTEIP negative weight.
>
> By countreweighting a messages that failed would only cause it to not
> fail the first time. I want to take a message that failed and was held
> and requeue it for delivery. When requeueing the message it should not
> be scanned again by declude.
>
>
> > p.s. With IMail, I re-queue a message for scanning and delivery by
> > moving the D*.SMD to the spool folder, and then moving the Q*.SMD file
>
> > to the spool\overflow folder. I also edit the D*.SMD file before I
> > move it, to remove any previous header additions, so that on the next
> > Declude scan, it gets only the "corrected" headers.
>
> This is not necessary. See above!
>
>
>
> Kevin Bilbee
>
>
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