John, These are all very important questions which we will answer with the revenue share program. Please understand we are not forcing any existing customers to change, but rather are offering an alternative, this is why CommTouch is an add-on so that we do not place you in a position that will effect your current business model negatively. You will still have the choice of taking us up on our offer or not.
David B www.declude.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:40 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 David, lets say for the sake of discussion I wanted to use/purchase/license the Declude Gateway product with CommTouch as a "legacy" customer. Who and how is the revenue projected or actual derived from use of the CommTouch software/feature? Is Declude going to pay some one to audit my accounting? Do I have to pay some one to audit my accounting? Who or how is revenue going to be defined? If you ask my clients, it will depend. If their wife/husband/friend/associate at another company is getting lots and spam and he/she is not, they will say the service is valuable. But in the next second, if that important e-mail telling them about a change to the proposition they have been working on for 2 months is delayed, they will say the service is worthless. Are we going to have to keep a diary of when the service is valuable and when it is worthless to determine the percentage of revenue? And exactly how is that percentage going to be determined? Without spam filtering, our service is meaningless, yet it is by far not the only cost associated with our service. Or I am going to have to purchase some kind of software that will create a report showing by percentage how much spam was caught by the CommTouch software/feature compared to other tests? But what about spam that gets caught by a lot of different tests? John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > David Barker > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:42 PM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 > > There are restrictions on CommTouch being used by Service Providers we > had to ensure that NEW customers (ie. Service Providers After 1 June > 06) understand the licensing restrictions. > > Current Service Providers (ie. Before 1 June 06) are under no > restrictions for using Declude; only the CommTouch add-in component. > > However we have managed to come to an agreement with CommTouch to > enable our > legacy customers (ie. Service Providers Before 1 June 06) to take advantage > of CommTouch under a revenue share program, this program is not being forced > onto legacy customers but will be an opportunity for us to help you increase > revenues in your business, by providing you with new product like the > Declude Gateway which would be independent of Imail/SmarterMail and > will include CommTouch. > > David B > www.declude.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > John T > (Lists) > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:02 PM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 > > I guess we all missed the following paragraph in the license agreement: > > 3.2.6 sub-license, rent, sell, lease, distribute, or otherwise > transfer the > Licensed Program save as provided under this End-User License > Agreement unless You obtain a separate License from Declude, Inc. for > such purposes (for example, You may not embed the Licensed Program > into another application and then distribute such to third parties > unless You first acquire an OEM License from Declude, Inc.). As of > June 1, 2006, ISP's and other service providers are not permitted to > use Declude software to clean and forward mail to customers unless a > separate revenue share agreement has > been established with Declude. > > http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=121 > > Is Declude trying to put us out of business? We pay for the software > and now > have to pay them some of your meager profits? > > John T > eServices For You > > "Seek, and ye shall find!" > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Gary Steiner > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:24 AM > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 > > > > I guess someone is going to make an official announcement today > > about > Declude 4.3? > > I see that its downloadable in my account, but it would be nice to > > know > what I'm > > getting before I install it, especially the new Commtouch stuff. > > > > The "Restrictions" listed next to the Add Commtouch section are > > especially > confusing. > > > > https://www.declude.com/articles.asp?ID=205 > > > > Who would use Declude and not fit the definitions of the restrictions? > Based on my > > reading of the Restrictions, nobody who uses Declude will ever be > > able to > use > > Commtouch. If I am misreading this, would someone please explain it > > to > me? > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type > > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > > http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". 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