John,

These are all very important questions which we will answer with the revenue
share program. Please understand we are not forcing any existing customers
to change, but rather are offering an alternative, this is why CommTouch is
an add-on so that we do not place you in a position that will effect your
current business model negatively. You will still have the choice of taking
us up on our offer or not.

David B
www.declude.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T
(Lists)
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:40 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3

David, lets say for the sake of discussion I wanted to use/purchase/license
the Declude Gateway product with CommTouch as a "legacy" customer. Who and
how is the revenue projected or actual derived from use of the CommTouch
software/feature? Is Declude going to pay some one to audit my accounting?
Do I have to pay some one to audit my accounting? Who or how is revenue
going to be defined? If you ask my clients, it will depend. If their
wife/husband/friend/associate at another company is getting lots and spam
and he/she is not, they will say the service is valuable. But in the next
second, if that important e-mail telling them about a change to the
proposition they have been working on for 2 months is delayed, they will say
the service is worthless. Are we going to have to keep a diary of when the
service is valuable and when it is worthless to determine the percentage of
revenue? And exactly how is that percentage going to be determined? Without
spam filtering, our service is meaningless, yet it is by far not the only
cost associated with our service. Or I am going to have to purchase some
kind of software that will create a report showing by percentage how much
spam was caught by the CommTouch software/feature compared to other tests?
But what about spam that gets caught by a lot of different tests?

John T
eServices For You

"Seek, and ye shall find!"


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> David Barker
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:42 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3
> 
> There are restrictions on CommTouch being used by Service Providers we 
> had to ensure that NEW customers (ie. Service Providers After 1 June 
> 06) understand the licensing restrictions.
> 
> Current Service Providers (ie. Before 1 June 06) are under no 
> restrictions for using Declude; only the CommTouch add-in component.
> 
> However we have managed to come to an agreement with CommTouch to 
> enable
our
> legacy customers (ie. Service Providers Before 1 June 06) to take
advantage
> of CommTouch under a revenue share program, this program is not being
forced
> onto legacy customers but will be an opportunity for us to help you
increase
> revenues in your business, by providing you with new product like the 
> Declude Gateway which would be independent of Imail/SmarterMail and 
> will include CommTouch.
> 
> David B
> www.declude.com
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> John T
> (Lists)
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:02 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3
> 
> I guess we all missed the following paragraph in the license agreement:
> 
> 3.2.6 sub-license, rent, sell, lease, distribute, or otherwise 
> transfer
the
> Licensed Program save as provided under this End-User License 
> Agreement unless You obtain a separate License from Declude, Inc. for 
> such purposes (for example, You may not embed the Licensed Program 
> into another application and then distribute such to third parties 
> unless You first acquire an OEM License from Declude, Inc.). As of 
> June 1, 2006, ISP's and other service providers are not permitted to 
> use Declude software to clean and forward mail to customers unless a 
> separate revenue share agreement
has
> been established with Declude.
> 
> http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=121
> 
> Is Declude trying to put us out of business? We pay for the software 
> and
now
> have to pay them some of your meager profits?
> 
> John T
> eServices For You
> 
> "Seek, and ye shall find!"
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> > Gary Steiner
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:24 AM
> > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3
> >
> > I guess someone is going to make an official announcement today 
> > about
> Declude 4.3?
> > I see that its downloadable in my account, but it would be nice to 
> > know
> what I'm
> > getting before I install it, especially the new Commtouch stuff.
> >
> > The "Restrictions" listed next to the Add Commtouch section are 
> > especially
> confusing.
> >
> > https://www.declude.com/articles.asp?ID=205
> >
> > Who would use Declude and not fit the definitions of the restrictions?
> Based on my
> > reading of the Restrictions, nobody who uses Declude will ever be 
> > able to
> use
> > Commtouch.  If I am misreading this, would someone please explain it 
> > to
> me?
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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