Mail gateways or anti-spam products for mail gateways? Darrell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Bilbee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <declude.junkmail@declude.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 1:16 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude? Other mail gateways do it. Why would it be so difficult to duplicate the message and the header changing the recipients in the individual header files? Kevin Bilbee > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > David Barker > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 6:30 AM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude? > > To create a duplicate message for each recipient is not a trivial > issue. > This is a function of the mail server not Declude. > > David Barker > Director of Product Development > Your Email security is our business > 978.499.2933 office > 978.988.1311 fax > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Kevin > Bilbee > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 5:08 PM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude? > > Delcude has always functioned like this. > > What declude could do in this case is to duplicate the message for each > recipient and write a new header file to each recipient. Not a big > issue. > Deliver to the one that whitelists and run the spam checks for the > others. > > > > Kevin Bilbee > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Darin Cox > > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:37 PM > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude? > > > > It's actually more of an issue of how the mail server handles the > > message. > > In the case of multiple recipients, since there is only one message > > file addressed to multiple recipients in the headers, it's either > > deliver or not deliver unless you rewrite the headers to modify the > > recipient list. I think I'd rather not have the spam filtering > system > > alter that. Add to the header, yes. Alter the recipients, no. > > > > Also, I have not come across a situation where I wanted to let a > > message go through to one recipient and not to others, except in the > > situation of lists which is a whole other topic. > > > > Darin. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dave Beckstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <declude.junkmail@declude.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:11 PM > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude? > > > > > > I would call that a flaw, then, in how Declude processes the > whitelist. > > > > I have a listserver email address for which I do not want email spam > > checked. This is because I don't want messages going out to the list > > that say SPAM in the subject line. Because nobody who is not a > member > > on the list can post to the list, there is no problem whitelisting > the > > "TO" > > address > > for mail sent to the list server email address. > > > > However, spammers will send an email to a dozen of our mail addresses > > (12 > > recipients) one of which is the whitelised "TO" address for the > > listserver. > > Because of the way Declude processes the whitelist, that means that > > the other 11 recipient receive the spam even though mail to them is > > not whitelisted. > > > > That is a bad design on Declude's part, wouldn't you agree? Anyone > > else feel that this needs to be rectified? > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Darrell > > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:25 AM > > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > > > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude? > > > > > > If one user is whitelisted they all will be whitelisted for that > > email. > > > There are some things you can do to prevent this like > > > BYPASSWHITELIST > > test. > > > > > > Darre;; > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > > - > > --- > > > Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude > > And > > > Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI > > integration, > > MRTG > > > Integration, and Log Parsers. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dave Beckstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <declude.junkmail@declude.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:18 AM > > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude? > > > > > > > > > If an email is received that is addressed to multiple recipients, > > > one > > of > > > whom is whitelisted, does Declude treat the email as whitelisted > for > > all > > > recipients? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type > > > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > > > http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. 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