FYI, Alligate also does splitting.
Matt
Kevin Bilbee wrote:
Anti-spam\virus mail gateways.
I know barracuda, (now Symantec), does the splitting for whitelisting.
Kevin Bilbee
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Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 10:48 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude?
Mail gateways or anti-spam products for mail gateways?
Darrell
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Bilbee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <declude.junkmail@declude.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 1:16 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude?
Other mail gateways do it. Why would it be so difficult to duplicate
the
message and the header changing the recipients in the individual header
files?
Kevin Bilbee
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
David Barker
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 6:30 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude?
To create a duplicate message for each recipient is not a trivial
issue.
This is a function of the mail server not Declude.
David Barker
Director of Product Development
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Kevin
Bilbee
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 5:08 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude?
Delcude has always functioned like this.
What declude could do in this case is to duplicate the message for
each
recipient and write a new header file to each recipient. Not a big
issue.
Deliver to the one that whitelists and run the spam checks for the
others.
Kevin Bilbee
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Darin Cox
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:37 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude?
It's actually more of an issue of how the mail server handles the
message.
In the case of multiple recipients, since there is only one message
file addressed to multiple recipients in the headers, it's either
deliver or not deliver unless you rewrite the headers to modify the
recipient list. I think I'd rather not have the spam filtering
system
alter that. Add to the header, yes. Alter the recipients, no.
Also, I have not come across a situation where I wanted to let a
message go through to one recipient and not to others, except in
the
situation of lists which is a whole other topic.
Darin.
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From: "Dave Beckstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <declude.junkmail@declude.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:11 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude?
I would call that a flaw, then, in how Declude processes the
whitelist.
I have a listserver email address for which I do not want email
spam
checked. This is because I don't want messages going out to the
list
that say SPAM in the subject line. Because nobody who is not a
member
on the list can post to the list, there is no problem whitelisting
the
"TO"
address
for mail sent to the list server email address.
However, spammers will send an email to a dozen of our mail
addresses
(12
recipients) one of which is the whitelised "TO" address for the
listserver.
Because of the way Declude processes the whitelist, that means that
the other 11 recipient receive the spam even though mail to them is
not whitelisted.
That is a bad design on Declude's part, wouldn't you agree? Anyone
else feel that this needs to be rectified?
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
Of
Darrell
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Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:25 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude?
If one user is whitelisted they all will be whitelisted for that
email.
There are some things you can do to prevent this like
BYPASSWHITELIST
test.
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From: "Dave Beckstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:18 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude?
If an email is received that is addressed to multiple recipients,
one
of
whom is whitelisted, does Declude treat the email as whitelisted
for
all
recipients?
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