Other mail gateways do it. Why would it be so difficult to duplicate the 
message and the header changing the recipients in the individual header files?



Kevin Bilbee

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> David Barker
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 6:30 AM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude?
> 
> To create a duplicate message for each recipient is not a trivial
> issue.
> This is a function of the mail server not Declude.
> 
> David Barker
> Director of Product Development
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Kevin
> Bilbee
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 5:08 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude?
> 
> Delcude has always functioned like this.
> 
> What declude could do in this case is to duplicate the message for each
> recipient and write a new header file to each recipient. Not a big
> issue.
> Deliver to the one that whitelists and run the spam checks for the
> others.
> 
> 
> 
> Kevin Bilbee
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > Darin Cox
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:37 PM
> > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude?
> >
> > It's actually more of an issue of how the mail server handles the
> > message.
> > In the case of multiple recipients, since there is only one message
> > file addressed to multiple recipients in the headers, it's either
> > deliver or not deliver unless you rewrite the headers to modify the
> > recipient list.  I think I'd rather not have the spam filtering
> system
> > alter that.  Add to the header, yes.  Alter the recipients, no.
> >
> > Also, I have not come across a situation where I wanted to let a
> > message go through to one recipient and not to others, except in the
> > situation of lists which is a whole other topic.
> >
> > Darin.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dave Beckstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <declude.junkmail@declude.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:11 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude?
> >
> >
> > I would call that a flaw, then, in how Declude processes the
> whitelist.
> >
> > I have a listserver email address for which I do not want email spam
> > checked.  This is because I don't want messages going out to the list
> > that say SPAM in the subject line.  Because nobody who is not a
> member
> > on the list can post to the list, there is no problem whitelisting
> the
> > "TO"
> > address
> > for mail sent to the list server email address.
> >
> > However, spammers will send an email to a dozen of our mail addresses
> > (12
> > recipients) one of which is the whitelised "TO" address for the
> > listserver.
> > Because of the way Declude processes the whitelist, that means that
> > the other 11 recipient receive the spam even though mail to them is
> > not whitelisted.
> >
> > That is a bad design on Declude's part, wouldn't you agree?  Anyone
> > else feel that this needs to be rectified?
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > Darrell
> > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:25 AM
> > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude?
> > >
> > > If one user is whitelisted they all will be whitelisted for that
> > email.
> > > There are some things you can do to prevent this like
> > > BYPASSWHITELIST
> > test.
> > >
> > > Darre;;
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> > > -
> > ---
> > > Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude
> > And
> > > Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI
> > integration,
> > MRTG
> > > Integration, and Log Parsers.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dave Beckstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <declude.junkmail@declude.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:18 AM
> > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude?
> > >
> > >
> > > If an email is received that is addressed to multiple recipients,
> > > one
> > of
> > > whom is whitelisted, does Declude treat the email as whitelisted
> for
> > all
> > > recipients?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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