Ich finde dass ziemlich super! Und deine Emglisch ist auch ganz gut. ;) Okay, now that we've established that my Grammatik is not up to snuff, your mockup looks really good. I'm not entirely sold on the second row (General >> Application Background), but it's clear and useful.
I am surprised that you didn't find it-- even in German, I found the option relatively quickly. Then again, I had prior knowledge and some German to help. But the options dialogue as a whole could really use some love. Christopher Lee Executive Director Champion Debate On Jul 15, 2011, at 2:59 AM, Alex B <list.3...@yahoo.de> wrote: > Since i'm using OOo/libO for almost 2 years now, and never found the option > to change the application background color, this can mean two things: > > I. Something is wrong with me. > II. Something is wrong with the options dialog. > > > (in my defence, it's way harder to find in german, than in english) > > I took a deeper look at the options dialog and i must say, it's quite > confusing sometimes, but thats an other topic. > > > I think, the whole apperance options would be easier to use if: > > - The apperance dialog is more prominent. > - A view color schemes are included in the default installation. > - There is a small live-preview. > > maybe like this? http://i.imgur.com/LHvxp.png > > > ________________________________ > > >> And while I agree that it's not an art program, it's also fair to make this >> comparison considering how many colors are offered in the LibreOffice >> options dialogue. We can deal with dropdown menus for changing font colors >> since most people use a >limited selection anyway (of course, with a Shore >> More . . . along the way), but there must be over a hundred offered in those >> dropdown lists. >> >> -- >> Christopher Lee >> Executive Director >> Champion Debate >> >> >> On Friday, July 15, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Andrew Pullins wrote: > >> this is not a Art program. but I see what you mean, palates are grate. I >> am working on a new UI right now, and will be uploading my ideas in a few >> days... or maybe tomorrow. hope to get some feed back from everyone. >> >> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Christopher Lee >> <gunboatdeba...@gmail.com (mailto:gunboatdeba...@gmail.com)>wrote: >> >>>> I was looking at the options that we are talking about after I read this. >>>> but I think that the color pickers could be made easier to understand. >>>> probably the hole options menu, but I have not read through the hole >>> thing. >>> Definitely. I don't see dropdown lists as being an ideal means of picking a >>> color for a multitude of reasons. 1) There are a lot of colors, and >>> scrolling through a long list is tedious. 2) You can only see a small >>> selection at any given time, making it harder to compare two colors. 3) It's >>> difficult to guess where the colors are, as they're in no real logical order >>> for the end user. 4) Lack of customization. 5) It's just not the right >>> interface. Art programs use palates for a reason. >>> >>> -- >>> Christopher Lee >>> Executive Director >>> Champion Debate >>> >>> >>> On Friday, July 15, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Andrew Pullins wrote: >>> >>>> I was looking at the options that we are talking about after I read this. >>>> but I think that the color pickers could be made easier to understand. >>>> probably the hole options menu, but I have not read through the hole >>> thing. >>>> >>>> For all the user cares, a simplified image just showing the page, the >>>>> general toolbar area, and so on would probably be sufficient >>>> >>>> >>>> I think that this is a good idea we could make different pages for what >>>> colors the user is choosing at that time. so when the user is choosing >>> the >>>> page Header and page Footer it shows them what they will look like. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Christopher Lee >>>> <gunboatdeba...@gmail.com (mailto:gunboatdeba...@gmail.com)>wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't think it would be that hard to do a preview-- you wouldn't even >>>>> need to have it be completely representative. For all the user cares, a >>>>> simplified image just showing the page, the general toolbar area, and >>> so on >>>>> would probably be sufficient-- and it would be no harder to implement >>> than >>>>> an apply button from a programming perspective (probably simpler, >>>>> actually!). I'm not saying Apply is bad, but the dialogue for options >>> right >>>>> now is kind of huge, especially for tight screens. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Christopher Lee >>>>> Executive Director >>>>> Champion Debate >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Andrew Pullins wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I like the idea that the colors and them be a "live preview" it >>> will >>>>> just >>>>>> be some time before that is implemented it sounds complicated. but >>> till >>>>>> then I think that the Apply button will work nicely. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 6:45 PM, RGB ES <rgb.m...@gmail.com >>>>>> (mailto:rgb.m...@gmail.com) (mailto: >>> rgb.m...@gmail.com (mailto:rgb.m...@gmail.com)) (mailto: >>>>> rgb.m...@gmail.com (mailto:rgb.m...@gmail.com))> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> 2011/7/15 Christopher Lee <gunboatdeba...@gmail.com >>>>>>> (mailto:gunboatdeba...@gmail.com) (mailto: >>> gunboatdeba...@gmail.com (mailto:gunboatdeba...@gmail.com)) (mailto: >>>>> gunboatdeba...@gmail.com (mailto:gunboatdeba...@gmail.com))>: >>>>>>>> Ricardo, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Already possible: Tools → Options → LibreOffice → Appearance → >>>>> change >>>>>>>>> "Application background" from "Default" to your preferred >>> colour. >>>>> If >>>>>>>>> you need a different colour define a new one under Tool → >>> Options → >>>>>>>>> LibreOffice → Colors: your new colour will be available when >>> you >>>>>>>>> change the background. >>>>>>>> It may already be possible, it's fairly deep in the menu trees >>> for >>>>>>> someone trying to do something simple. It's also not equipped with >>> a >>>>> live >>>>>>> preview or any semblance of an attempt at matching color schemes, >>> and >>>>> the >>>>>>> color picker is kind of dated/ugly (choose from a dropdown list? A >>>>> color? >>>>>>> Out of some forty or fifty sets? Not a good idea!). I think Alex is >>>>> just >>>>>>> suggesting that 1) We could change the default, which is sensible, >>> and >>>>> 2) At >>>>>>> least make it more apparent. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The whole LibO's colour management needs a rewrite, I think that >>>>>>> everyone agrees with that. IMHO, without a proper way to select AND >>>>>>> define colours, the "already possible" solution is the only >>> possible >>>>>>> answer... we can talk for hours on end about how >>>>>>> difficult/deep/whatever the options are, but I think we need to >>>>>>> discuss first of all about the colour palette: only then we will be >>>>>>> able to discuss how to use those colours. >>>>>>> For a "live preview" I think it is enough (1) to extend the "Apply" >>>>>>> button we see on style management since 3.4 to the Option dialogue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (1) In the mathematical sense of the word: I have no idea how >>>>>>> difficult it is to add the Apply button there, but I'm sure it is >>>>>>> enough to solve the problem, so it is a "Sufficient condition"... >>> :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >>> design+h...@global.libreoffice.org >>> (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org) (mailto: >>> design+h...@global.libreoffice.org >>> (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org))(mailto: >>>>> design+h...@global.libreoffice.org >>>>> (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org) (mailto: >>> design+h...@global.libreoffice.org >>> (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org))) >>>>>>> Posting guidelines + more: >>>>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>>>>>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ >>>>>>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot >>> be >>>>>>> deleted >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >>> design+h...@global.libreoffice.org >>> (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org) (mailto: >>> design+h...@global.libreoffice.org >>> (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org))(mailto: >>>>> design+h...@global.libreoffice.org >>>>> (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org) (mailto: >>> design+h...@global.libreoffice.org >>> (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org))) >>>>>> Posting guidelines + more: >>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>>>>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ >>>>>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot >>> be >>>>> deleted >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org >>>>> (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org)(mailto: >>> design+h...@global.libreoffice.org >>> (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org)) >>>>> Posting guidelines + more: >>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>>>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ >>>>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >>>>> deleted >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org >>>> (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org)(mailto: >>> design+h...@global.libreoffice.org >>> (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org)) >>>> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ >>>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >>> deleted >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org >>> (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org) >>> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ >>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >>> deleted >> >> -- >> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org >> (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org) >> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ >> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >> deleted > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
