And while I agree that it's not an art program, it's also fair to make this comparison considering how many colors are offered in the LibreOffice options dialogue. We can deal with dropdown menus for changing font colors since most people use a limited selection anyway (of course, with a Shore More . . . along the way), but there must be over a hundred offered in those dropdown lists.
-- Christopher Lee Executive Director Champion Debate On Friday, July 15, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Andrew Pullins wrote: > this is not a Art program. but I see what you mean, palates are grate. I > am working on a new UI right now, and will be uploading my ideas in a few > days... or maybe tomorrow. hope to get some feed back from everyone. > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Christopher Lee > <gunboatdeba...@gmail.com (mailto:gunboatdeba...@gmail.com)>wrote: > > > > I was looking at the options that we are talking about after I read this. > > > but I think that the color pickers could be made easier to understand. > > > probably the hole options menu, but I have not read through the hole > > thing. > > Definitely. I don't see dropdown lists as being an ideal means of picking a > > color for a multitude of reasons. 1) There are a lot of colors, and > > scrolling through a long list is tedious. 2) You can only see a small > > selection at any given time, making it harder to compare two colors. 3) It's > > difficult to guess where the colors are, as they're in no real logical order > > for the end user. 4) Lack of customization. 5) It's just not the right > > interface. Art programs use palates for a reason. > > > > -- > > Christopher Lee > > Executive Director > > Champion Debate > > > > > > On Friday, July 15, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Andrew Pullins wrote: > > > > > I was looking at the options that we are talking about after I read this. > > > but I think that the color pickers could be made easier to understand. > > > probably the hole options menu, but I have not read through the hole > > thing. > > > > > > For all the user cares, a simplified image just showing the page, the > > > > general toolbar area, and so on would probably be sufficient > > > > > > > > > I think that this is a good idea we could make different pages for what > > > colors the user is choosing at that time. so when the user is choosing > > the > > > page Header and page Footer it shows them what they will look like. > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Christopher Lee > > > <gunboatdeba...@gmail.com (mailto:gunboatdeba...@gmail.com)>wrote: > > > > > > > I don't think it would be that hard to do a preview-- you wouldn't even > > > > need to have it be completely representative. For all the user cares, a > > > > simplified image just showing the page, the general toolbar area, and > > so on > > > > would probably be sufficient-- and it would be no harder to implement > > than > > > > an apply button from a programming perspective (probably simpler, > > > > actually!). I'm not saying Apply is bad, but the dialogue for options > > right > > > > now is kind of huge, especially for tight screens. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Christopher Lee > > > > Executive Director > > > > Champion Debate > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, July 14, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Andrew Pullins wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like the idea that the colors and them be a "live preview" it > > will > > > > just > > > > > be some time before that is implemented it sounds complicated. but > > till > > > > > then I think that the Apply button will work nicely. > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 6:45 PM, RGB ES <rgb.m...@gmail.com > > > > > (mailto:rgb.m...@gmail.com) (mailto: > > rgb.m...@gmail.com (mailto:rgb.m...@gmail.com)) (mailto: > > > > rgb.m...@gmail.com (mailto:rgb.m...@gmail.com))> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > 2011/7/15 Christopher Lee <gunboatdeba...@gmail.com > > > > > > (mailto:gunboatdeba...@gmail.com) (mailto: > > gunboatdeba...@gmail.com (mailto:gunboatdeba...@gmail.com)) (mailto: > > > > gunboatdeba...@gmail.com (mailto:gunboatdeba...@gmail.com))>: > > > > > > > Ricardo, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Already possible: Tools → Options → LibreOffice → Appearance → > > > > change > > > > > > > > "Application background" from "Default" to your preferred > > colour. > > > > If > > > > > > > > you need a different colour define a new one under Tool → > > Options → > > > > > > > > LibreOffice → Colors: your new colour will be available when > > you > > > > > > > > change the background. > > > > > > > It may already be possible, it's fairly deep in the menu trees > > for > > > > > > someone trying to do something simple. It's also not equipped with > > a > > > > live > > > > > > preview or any semblance of an attempt at matching color schemes, > > and > > > > the > > > > > > color picker is kind of dated/ugly (choose from a dropdown list? A > > > > color? > > > > > > Out of some forty or fifty sets? Not a good idea!). I think Alex is > > > > just > > > > > > suggesting that 1) We could change the default, which is sensible, > > and > > > > 2) At > > > > > > least make it more apparent. > > > > > > > > > > > > The whole LibO's colour management needs a rewrite, I think that > > > > > > everyone agrees with that. IMHO, without a proper way to select AND > > > > > > define colours, the "already possible" solution is the only > > possible > > > > > > answer... we can talk for hours on end about how > > > > > > difficult/deep/whatever the options are, but I think we need to > > > > > > discuss first of all about the colour palette: only then we will be > > > > > > able to discuss how to use those colours. > > > > > > For a "live preview" I think it is enough (1) to extend the "Apply" > > > > > > button we see on style management since 3.4 to the Option dialogue. > > > > > > > > > > > > (1) In the mathematical sense of the word: I have no idea how > > > > > > difficult it is to add the Apply button there, but I'm sure it is > > > > > > enough to solve the problem, so it is a "Sufficient condition"... > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > > design+h...@global.libreoffice.org > > (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org) (mailto: > > design+h...@global.libreoffice.org > > (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org))(mailto: > > > > design+h...@global.libreoffice.org > > > > (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org) (mailto: > > design+h...@global.libreoffice.org > > (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org))) > > > > > > Posting guidelines + more: > > > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > > > > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > > > > > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot > > be > > > > > > deleted > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > > design+h...@global.libreoffice.org > > (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org) (mailto: > > design+h...@global.libreoffice.org > > (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org))(mailto: > > > > design+h...@global.libreoffice.org > > > > (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org) (mailto: > > design+h...@global.libreoffice.org > > (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org))) > > > > > Posting guidelines + more: > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > > > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > > > > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot > > be > > > > deleted > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org > > > > (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org)(mailto: > > design+h...@global.libreoffice.org > > (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org)) > > > > Posting guidelines + more: > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > > > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > > > deleted > > > > > > -- > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org > > > (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org)(mailto: > > design+h...@global.libreoffice.org > > (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org)) > > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > deleted > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org > > (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org) > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > deleted > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org > (mailto:design+h...@global.libreoffice.org) > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
