Ghee Teo wrote:
> Laszlo (Laca) Peter wrote:
>   
>> Ladies and gentlemen,
>>
>> Desktop is probably the only community that has Contributor 
>> guidelines[1] so may I suggest that we follow them (apart from
>> the fill in the form part, since the form is not there yet).
>>   
>>     
>   So the proposed guidelines have been accepted by the communities?
> How, and by whom, through what process?
> I still asking this as I think it is important to clarify (even though I am
> one of the author of the guidelines).
>   
As a core contributor, they look sane enough guidelines for me to use. 
Other core contributors may have a different opinion and they can vote 
accordingly. They are only guidelines at the end of they day.
 
>> These are the Core Contributor criteria according to the
>> Guidelines:
>>
>> Core Contributor Criteria
>>
>> 1. Already granted Contributor status.
>> 2. Significant non-trivial contributions have been made
>>    in the respective area of expertise.
>> 3. Desire for in-depth involvement in the Desktop community
>>    in the Open Source context. 
>>    (evidence or trend to show such level of involvement).
>> 4. Actively involved in decision making that impact the
>>    direction and formulation of the Desktop community [*]
>> 5. Two References to back up applications
>>
>> In particular, I'd like to draw the attention to 1. and
>> suggest that requests for Core Contributor status from
>> non-Contributors should be treated as requests for
>> Contributor status.
>>
>> Also note 3.  I personally think that even Contributors
>> should be only those who are active in the OpenSolaris community
>> and not just "doing their job at Sun", 
>>     
>    A contributor is anyone who contributes to the Desktop, should
> not be excluded because they are "doing their job at Sun". 
If they only work for Sun (or anybody else) and have no community 
involvement, then why should they be included? Just because they work 
for Sun?

> This is
> just different mode of motivation to contributions. However, whatever
> they do inside Sun should be brought/communicated into open.
>    Just noted that the whole bunch of QA inside Sun are contributing
> significant to the quality of GNOME desktop, and so far, their works
> is only known internally.
They should jump the fence and become involved externally in the 
community. Voting internally to move their projects outside into the 
community should be the first step.

Doug

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