Brian Cameron wrote:
> Alo:
>
>   
>> For example: should a developer/QA engineer in the JDS team have the  
>> core contributor status? Well, given that is a person who is spending  
>> at least 8 hour a day working on the OSOL desktop, I would say that it  
>> is, without having to apply any kind a rule or voting.
>>     
>
> I disagree.  The Core Contributors group is designed to be a group
> of leaders who make decisions about the direction of the OpenSolaris
> desktop.  The people in this group should be people who have reasonable
> leadership/communication skills, ability to make decisions, and have a
> track record of working well with the other groups (internal or external
> to Sun) relating to their jobs.  I don't think it makes sense for a
> person to be automagically granted a core contributor status just
> because they have a Sun badge.
>   
No, a Sun badge shouldn't be sufficient.  But it shouldn't an order of 
magnitude more difficult than becoming a voting member of gnome.org.  I 
was able to vote in GNOME elections based on QA and user help type 
activity years ago, probably before I knew how to properly pronounce 
GNOME.  I don't remember it being as difficult and I don't see gnome.org 
as being too dilute.   On the other hand, my first request to become a 
voting member of opensolaris.org went out nearly a year ago but I didn't 
understand the magical process so Ghee and I created a process.  As part 
of this proposed process, we made being a "contributor" a prerequisite 
to becoming a "core contributor" so I'm in the queue with all of the 
other newcomers.  (Hopefully venting so they won't have to.)

> I would, for example, expect the list of Core Contributors to have
> some relation to the senior engineers in the JDS team, for example.
> It probably doesn't make so much sense for a junior programmer who
> has just started working for Sun last month to be considered a "core
> contributor" just because they work on the JDS team.
>   
I don't agree.  Sun's internal engineering hierarchy should have nothing 
to do with OpenSolaris "Contributor" or "Core Contributor" hierarchy.  
Two of our most recent additions (one a former intern and one a seasoned 
engineer) are soft spoken but extremely valuable contributors to 
OpenSolaris. 

> So, it does seem to make some sense to have some process (be it voting
> or whatever) to pick which candidates make the most sense to be
> leading the community.
>
>   
>> Of course, I am not saying that the current mechanism/rules is a bad  
>> thing - I do not think it is. I am just trying to convince myself that  
>> it is something that we really need as it is implemented today.
>>     
>
> Processes evolve.  The current process is probably not perfect, or
> the same as we will have in 10 years.  Probably a more useful
> question is whether the current process is reasonable for what we
> need at the moment.
>
> Brian
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