+1 from me too! Glynn, I hope you are able to get traction with this
change. I agree that we need a more inclusive community model but
retaining localized control where it belongs.
If this happens, I'll stop complaining too ;-)
I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member.
--Groucho Marx.
On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 22:53 +0000, Ghee Teo wrote:
> Well said. If this the path we strife to go down, I keep my mouth shut
> for the thread
> save everyone times and energy :)
>
> The goal of unification stated in the final paragraph to me is the ethos
> the OpenSolaris
> should strife towards to.
>
> -Ghee
>
> Glynn Foster wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> >
> >> No, a Sun badge shouldn't be sufficient. But it shouldn't an order of
> >> magnitude more difficult than becoming a voting member of gnome.org. I
> >> was able to vote in GNOME elections based on QA and user help type
> >> activity years ago, probably before I knew how to properly pronounce
> >> GNOME. I don't remember it being as difficult and I don't see gnome.org
> >> as being too dilute. On the other hand, my first request to become a
> >> voting member of opensolaris.org went out nearly a year ago but I didn't
> >> understand the magical process so Ghee and I created a process. As part
> >> of this proposed process, we made being a "contributor" a prerequisite
> >> to becoming a "core contributor" so I'm in the queue with all of the
> >> other newcomers. (Hopefully venting so they won't have to.)
> >>
> >
> > This is one of the things I want to change about the constitution, but
> > haven't
> > yet had time to write up into a more formal amendment.
> >
> > The people who do the work get to decide the direction of the project.
> > Period. I
> > trust those people. They're doing it day in, day out. They know the system
> > better than I could. If I have a desktop multimedia question I'm sure as
> > hell
> > going to talk to Brian. If I had a compiz question I'm going to talk to
> > Erwann.
> > If I DTrace question, I'd *fully* trust all the DTrace guys 100% to know
> > what's
> > best. Similarly for Garrett and drivers, or John Plocher about ARC. They are
> > solely the people who should be deciding things, regardless of whether we
> > have
> > contributors or core contributors. Those decisions don't really need a vote
> > -
> > just get on with it, and make it happen. We'll all be better off.
> >
> > However, we *do* need to make opensolaris.org an open, positive and
> > welcoming
> > community - encouraging the new people to join the project, get involved,
> > and
> > have fun. If we don't, we'll lose. Membership, I believe, is a core part
> > of that.
> >
> > I'd very much like to see the contributor/core contributor/emeritus model
> > removed to be replaced by general membership - what we currently have just
> > causes confusion. People who are interested and excited about being part of
> > the
> > OpenSolaris project can submit their name for membership, based on their
> > contributions and visibility to date *within* opensolaris.org. If accepted
> > they'll be able to vote in the OGB elections. Does that mean they'll get to
> > decide the direction of DTrace? Hell no. If they start writing code, or
> > leading
> > some other project, they'll absolutely get a say there.
> >
> > The benefits? Unification - rather than all working in silos, wondering why
> > your
> > contributions haven't been recognized by X, Y or Z community group, you're
> > part
> > of something wider, more inclusive and working on the same set of goals.
> >
> >
> >
> > Glynn
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