On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Matthew N. <ma...@mozilla.com> wrote:

> On 2016-04-15 7:47 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
>
>> What steps can we take in this direction WITHOUT breaking web compat?
>>
>>
>> E.g. since one of the issues raised is that *every* time a user
>> enters/submits a password over HTTP (not secure), it opens them to
>> being sniffed etc., thus it's good to discourage the frequency.
>>
>> Some STRAW PROPOSALS that I expect others here (and UX folks) to
>> easily improve on:
>>
>> 1. Warning (perhaps similar to the invalid red glow) on password
>> inputs in forms with HTTP "action"
>>
>
> We are making progress towards this and Aislinn Grigas from UX worked on a
> design for something like this:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8678150
>
> We already started developer-specific warnings in the web console and in
> the address bar of Nightly + Developer Edition:
> https://hacks.mozilla.org/2016/01/login-forms-over-https-please/
>
> There are some dependencies to fix before doing user-facing warnings which
> we're currently working on. You can follow along in the bug:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1217162
>
> 2. Warning (similarly) on HTTP-auth password dialogs
>>
>
> This is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1185145 which I
> haven't seen a design for yet but should be less risky to implement than
> for <input>. It is in the Firefox privacy/security team backlog.
>

Could we just disable HTTP auth for connections not protected with TLS?  At
least Basic auth is manifestly insecure over an insecure transport.  I
don't have any usage statistics, but I suspect it's pretty low compared to
form-based auth.

--Richard


> Meta bug related to dealing with insecure login forms:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1217142
>
> Thanks,
> Matthew N.
>
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