On 18/03/14 13:05, Benjamin Smedberg wrote:
In terms of the default data choices, however, I believe beta should
just be considered one of our pre-release channels. One of the primary
purposes of a prerelease channel is to be able to validate our design
decisions and collect feedback before changes hit the world. I believe
that beta users in general expect to help with these things and this
change in defaults reflects that.

So I wondered to myself: "what message have we so far been sending to Beta users, to set their expectations of what being a Beta user means?".

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/channel/#beta

"The latest features in a more stable environment"

Click "Learn More", and it gives you 3 things that being a beta user means. The most relevant is 2:

"2. Refine & Polish
Give us feedback to help us put the final tweaks on performance and functionality in a stable environment."

Is that really enough that people who are currently beta users will have an expectation that Firefox will send back, without prompting, information about its internal workings?

Am I right in thinking that existing beta users would be opted in without prompt, or would there be a prompt? If there would be a prompt, is it default-yes or default-no?

Another important factor in this decision is that the current
nightly/aurora population is significantly skewed toward advanced users
who are capable of living on the cutting edge; those channels have much
less coverage of users with older/less-capable hardware, newer
consumer-grade hardware, non-English locales, users with popular
extensions, and so forth.

Most experiments require a representative population, and quite a few
will be specifically targeted at locales which don't exist in
nightly/aurora. As an example, the Firefox in-browser translation
experiment, which will be targeted to users in three countries.

This was why I made the point about "I know the data would be useful." These are more reasons why it would be useful. I don't deny this for a moment :-) The question is whether we are violating user expectations.

Are you saying that you disagree with this plan, or ?

I don't know yet.

Gerv


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