On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 11:45:15 AM UTC, Tim Hollebeek wrote:
> > > which is why in the near future we can hopefully use RDAP over TLS
> > > (RFC
> > > 7481) instead of WHOIS, and of course since the near past, DNSSEC :)
> > 
> > I agree moving away from WHOIS to RDAP over TLS is a good low hanging fruit
> > mitigator once it is viable.
> 
> My opinion is it is viable now, and the time to transition to optionally 
> authenticated RDAP over TLS is now.  It solves pretty much all the problems 
> we are currently having in a straightforward, standards-based way.  
> 
> The only opposition I've seem comes from people who seem to want to promote 
> alternative models that destroy the WHOIS ecosystem, leading to proprietary 
> distribution and monetization of WHOIS data.
> 
> I can see why that is attractive to some people, but I don’t think it's best 
> for everyone.
> 
> I also agree that DNSSEC is a lost cause, though I understand why Paul 
> doesn't want to give up 😊  I've wanted to see it succeed for basically my 
> entire career, but it seems to be making about as much progress as fusion 
> energy.
> 
> -Tim

Moving to RDAP does not solve "all the problems we are currently having" in 
that it does not do anything for DCV which is what I think this thread was 
about (e.g. BGP implications for DCV).

That said, if in fact, RDAP is viable today I agree we should deprecate the use 
of WhoIs and mandate use of RDAP in the associated scenarios.

Ryan Hurst
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