GlobalSign has revoked the respective certificates and is investigating root
cause. Thanks. 

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> From: dev-security-policy <dev-security-policy-boun...@lists.mozilla.org>
On
> Behalf Of Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
> Sent: dinsdag 21 mei 2019 6:06
> To: Brian Smith <br...@briansmith.org>
> Cc: Ryan Sleevi <r...@sleevi.com>; mozilla-dev-security-policy
<mozilla-dev-
> security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org>; Wayne Thayer <wtha...@mozilla.com>
> Subject: Re: Policy 2.7 Proposal: Clarify Section 5.1 ECDSA Curve-Hash
> Requirements
> 
> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 4:48 PM Brian Smith <br...@briansmith.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 11:39 AM Wayne Thayer <wtha...@mozilla.com>
wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 10:02 AM Ryan Sleevi <r...@sleevi.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thank you David and Ryan! This appears to me to be a reasonable
> >>> improvement to our policy.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Brian: could I ask you to review the proposed change?
> >>
> >>
> >>> This does not, however, address the last part of what Brian proposes
> >>> - which is examining if, how many, and which CAs would fail to meet
> >>> these encoding requirements today, either in their roots,
> >>> subordinates, or leaf certificates.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> While I agree that this would be useful information, for the purpose
> >> of moving ahead with this policy change would it instead be
> >> reasonable to set an effective date and require certificates issued
> >> (notBefore) after that date to comply, putting the burden on CAs to
> >> verify their implementations rather than relying on someone else to do
that
> work?
> >>
> >
> > My understanding here is that the proposed text is not imposing a new
> > requirement, but more explicitly stating a requirement that is already
> > imposed by the BRs. AFAICT BRs require syntactically valid X.509
> > certificates, RFC 5280 defines what's syntactically valid, RFC 5280
> > defers to other documents about what is allowed for each algorithm
> > identifier, and this is an attempt to collect all those requirements
> > into one spot for convenience.
> >
> 
> I unintentionally let this drop off my radar.
> 
> I did some light analysis, based on analyzing simply the bytes of the cert
(i.e.
> without structural parsing), simply looking at whether or not one of the
prescribed
> sequences appears, first for SPKIs, then for signatures.
> 
> For SPKIs, I only found a total of 9 unexpired certs, so I've just
reproduced them
> here:
> -
> https://crt.sh/?c=ad567be233e98ac621e8b760005f37f1d7e916d73c602391771ab5f2
> 3f7af38b
> -
> https://crt.sh/?c=b719593d1e625e45f42ab3d1537e0a9c7a33c0a87244e7000db6157
> 1bc0fd98b
> -
> https://crt.sh/?c=541e29ce0aee8244a43b31e031208e6808a7e412d6c9cda6cd032d5
> 28ea0c690
> -
> https://crt.sh/?c=6101a94793441c3b85ac653703d62d5c65ca6457662b36ad7abd3ee
> 43d5eec11
> -
> https://crt.sh/?c=ca304b895d0d652da1c352dbda577f7c70c5f6741758e17a919a97d
> 063ad56c7
> -
> https://crt.sh/?c=91d876790b645196389d3c92a6b480969557192ecdd2bfeaaced6c0
> 7948d9d5c
> -
> https://crt.sh/?c=96185e2fadc17a5b896338a3fcce3647b3b2f9221c61c9624814c4d3
> 7b884dbb
> -
> https://crt.sh/?c=9a9ec285f834b421416e5e5ba45727deaf92adf37e76a82cdf6d45d0
> fba0728c
> - (Revoked)
> https://crt.sh/?c=5cf9ff16c5d1e128a2082df9d290d1571c1a8f2f782bc1cacd2b0437
> 094f0e13
> 
> Of the 8 unrevoked, they're all issued by a single CA - GlobalSign - and
are all
> RSA keys that lack the explicit NULL parameter, and thus violate the
requirements
> of https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3279#section-2.3.1
> 
> These are flagged by cablint (but not zlint), so that is an opportunity
for CAs to
> improve things - both in how they encode and how they lint.
> 
> I haven't (yet) gone through the Signature encodings, but that should
hopefully
> address the SPKI concerns. Of course, I may have botched things rather
> significantly in my queries, but at least sharing my data provides a way
for people
> to prove that :)
> 
> 
> >
> > It would be easier to understand if this is true if the proposed text
> > cited the RFCs, like RFC 4055, that actually impose the requirements
> > that result in the given encodings.
> >
> 
> Could you clarify, do you just mean adding references to each of the
example
> encodings (such as the above example, for the SPKI encoding)?
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