Benson,

Just to be clear (I had to re-read your email a few times to understand) you're 
saying a real-time online discussion such as Adam is proposing has the 
potential to exclude some members of the dev community and that we should be 
sure to stick to things like this email discussion to avoid those problems?


Thanks,

Aaron


On Feb 1, 2013, at 2:36 AM, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I want to caution everyone that this process skates close to an edge
> of an Apache invariant. An online forum has the potential to exclude
> people in far-away time zones or with other constraints. At Apache, we
> try to maximize the use of email to avoid this problem.
> 
> Nothing here is an absolute -- I'm not trying to torpedo this plan altogether.
> 
> Nothing, that is, except except that _decisions_ must be made on the
> mailing list afterwards.
> 
> If anyone in the dev community feels excluded by this prospect, I
> would encourage you to speak up now, so that the planners can make
> adjustments to minimize that.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Billie Rinaldi
> <billie.rina...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Eric Newton <eric.new...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> What is CAS?
>>> 
>>>   - Switch to Curator.
>>>   - Monitoring.  I'm hoping this will just be integration with an existing
>>>   tool.
>>>   - Namespaces.
>>>   - A simple query language.  Perhaps there's something we can collaborate
>>>   with some of the other NoSQL folks.
>>>   - Update the wiki search example.
>>>   - Automatic tablet merge.
>>>   - Scalable NN
>>> 
>> 
>> Is scalable NN == ACCUMULO-722?  I'd be excited about that for 1.6.
>> 
>> Billie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Some of these don't need design documents, but some discussion of
>>> requirements would be nice.
>>> 
>>> -Eric
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Keith Turner <ke...@deenlo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This will be very useful.
>>>> 
>>>> Some new features I am thinking about for 1.6 are replication, CAS,
>>>> and Percolator.  I would like to put together a bit of an initial
>>>> design document for each of these.  I'm thinking that a follow up
>>>> online deep dive on the design of each large new 1.6 feature would
>>>> also be very useful.
>>>> 
>>>> In the coming week I plan to spend most of my time testing,
>>>> documenting, fixing bugs, and polishing 1.5.0.  I do not think this
>>>> would leave much time to work on 1.6.  So interleaving design
>>>> discussion about new 1.6 features while 1.5 is being polished would be
>>>> nice.  So once 1.5.0 ships, I would have peer reviewed designs to
>>>> start implementing.
>>>> 
>>>> Keith
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Adam Fuchs <afu...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> Folks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now that we're past feature freeze for 1.5, I'd like to set up a
>>>> discussion
>>>>> of the features that Accumulo developers are interested in for 1.6 and
>>>>> beyond. The purpose of this discussion will be to raise awareness of
>>>>> projects that you think are cool and important, and to rally the
>>>> community.
>>>>> As a proposed format, let's plan on a series of 2-5 minute
>>> presentations
>>>> of
>>>>> individual features -- what it is, why it's important, how should we
>>>> build
>>>>> it, and who needs to help. We'll record the presentations for
>>> posterity.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since the community is now distributed throughout several states, let's
>>>> try
>>>>> our hand at an online discussion. Depending on participation, we'll
>>> pick
>>>> a
>>>>> forum that can accomodate everyone. If you're interested in attending,
>>>>> please fill out this doodle with what time you would be available:
>>>>> http://www.doodle.com/w9zb77ya3ykxr4zv
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you can, please try to fill out the survey by Tuesday afternoon.
>>> After
>>>>> we get a good feel for times and participation, I'll schedule an online
>>>>> forum and send out a meeting invitation. If you would like to present a
>>>>> feature, send me an email directly at afu...@apache.org, and I'll make
>>>> sure
>>>>> you get time to present it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I look forward to seeing what everyone has up their sleeves!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Adam
>>>> 
>>> 

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