How I read Benson's comment is that if anyone feels excluded by the online forum and voices that objection then we should not do it. This is not to say that the community has any power to forbid communication about Accumulo outside of email channels, but we should make things as accessible as possible and only make official decisions via approved channels (do we have by-laws to approve channels yet?).
Another way to think of this online forum is like a meetup. We're proposing to do a couple of things to be as inclusive as possible -- one is to record the presentations so that everyone can see them on their own schedule. The other is to refrain from any official decision making at this event. This is only intended to facilitate information exchange. Adam On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Aaron Cordova <aa...@cordovas.org> wrote: > Benson, > > Just to be clear (I had to re-read your email a few times to understand) > you're saying a real-time online discussion such as Adam is proposing has > the potential to exclude some members of the dev community and that we > should be sure to stick to things like this email discussion to avoid those > problems? > > > Thanks, > > Aaron > > > On Feb 1, 2013, at 2:36 AM, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I want to caution everyone that this process skates close to an edge > > of an Apache invariant. An online forum has the potential to exclude > > people in far-away time zones or with other constraints. At Apache, we > > try to maximize the use of email to avoid this problem. > > > > Nothing here is an absolute -- I'm not trying to torpedo this plan > altogether. > > > > Nothing, that is, except except that _decisions_ must be made on the > > mailing list afterwards. > > > > If anyone in the dev community feels excluded by this prospect, I > > would encourage you to speak up now, so that the planners can make > > adjustments to minimize that. > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Billie Rinaldi > > <billie.rina...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Eric Newton <eric.new...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >>> What is CAS? > >>> > >>> - Switch to Curator. > >>> - Monitoring. I'm hoping this will just be integration with an > existing > >>> tool. > >>> - Namespaces. > >>> - A simple query language. Perhaps there's something we can > collaborate > >>> with some of the other NoSQL folks. > >>> - Update the wiki search example. > >>> - Automatic tablet merge. > >>> - Scalable NN > >>> > >> > >> Is scalable NN == ACCUMULO-722? I'd be excited about that for 1.6. > >> > >> Billie > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> Some of these don't need design documents, but some discussion of > >>> requirements would be nice. > >>> > >>> -Eric > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Keith Turner <ke...@deenlo.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> This will be very useful. > >>>> > >>>> Some new features I am thinking about for 1.6 are replication, CAS, > >>>> and Percolator. I would like to put together a bit of an initial > >>>> design document for each of these. I'm thinking that a follow up > >>>> online deep dive on the design of each large new 1.6 feature would > >>>> also be very useful. > >>>> > >>>> In the coming week I plan to spend most of my time testing, > >>>> documenting, fixing bugs, and polishing 1.5.0. I do not think this > >>>> would leave much time to work on 1.6. So interleaving design > >>>> discussion about new 1.6 features while 1.5 is being polished would be > >>>> nice. So once 1.5.0 ships, I would have peer reviewed designs to > >>>> start implementing. > >>>> > >>>> Keith > >>>> > >>>> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Adam Fuchs <afu...@apache.org> > wrote: > >>>>> Folks, > >>>>> > >>>>> Now that we're past feature freeze for 1.5, I'd like to set up a > >>>> discussion > >>>>> of the features that Accumulo developers are interested in for 1.6 > and > >>>>> beyond. The purpose of this discussion will be to raise awareness of > >>>>> projects that you think are cool and important, and to rally the > >>>> community. > >>>>> As a proposed format, let's plan on a series of 2-5 minute > >>> presentations > >>>> of > >>>>> individual features -- what it is, why it's important, how should we > >>>> build > >>>>> it, and who needs to help. We'll record the presentations for > >>> posterity. > >>>>> > >>>>> Since the community is now distributed throughout several states, > let's > >>>> try > >>>>> our hand at an online discussion. Depending on participation, we'll > >>> pick > >>>> a > >>>>> forum that can accomodate everyone. If you're interested in > attending, > >>>>> please fill out this doodle with what time you would be available: > >>>>> http://www.doodle.com/w9zb77ya3ykxr4zv > >>>>> > >>>>> If you can, please try to fill out the survey by Tuesday afternoon. > >>> After > >>>>> we get a good feel for times and participation, I'll schedule an > online > >>>>> forum and send out a meeting invitation. If you would like to > present a > >>>>> feature, send me an email directly at afu...@apache.org, and I'll > make > >>>> sure > >>>>> you get time to present it. > >>>>> > >>>>> I look forward to seeing what everyone has up their sleeves! > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers, > >>>>> Adam > >>>> > >>> > >
