On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Adam Fuchs <scubafu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How I read Benson's comment is that if anyone feels excluded by the online > forum and voices that objection then we should not do it. This is not to > say that the community has any power to forbid communication about Accumulo > outside of email channels, but we should make things as accessible as > possible and only make official decisions via approved channels (do we have > by-laws to approve channels yet?). > We should work on our by-laws. I believe the only channel we have to make decisions is through the mailing list (and by extension JIRA, since it is logged to the mailing list). Billie > > Another way to think of this online forum is like a meetup. We're proposing > to do a couple of things to be as inclusive as possible -- one is to record > the presentations so that everyone can see them on their own schedule. The > other is to refrain from any official decision making at this event. This > is only intended to facilitate information exchange. > > Adam > > > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Aaron Cordova <aa...@cordovas.org> wrote: > > > Benson, > > > > Just to be clear (I had to re-read your email a few times to understand) > > you're saying a real-time online discussion such as Adam is proposing has > > the potential to exclude some members of the dev community and that we > > should be sure to stick to things like this email discussion to avoid > those > > problems? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Aaron > > > > > > On Feb 1, 2013, at 2:36 AM, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > I want to caution everyone that this process skates close to an edge > > > of an Apache invariant. An online forum has the potential to exclude > > > people in far-away time zones or with other constraints. At Apache, we > > > try to maximize the use of email to avoid this problem. > > > > > > Nothing here is an absolute -- I'm not trying to torpedo this plan > > altogether. > > > > > > Nothing, that is, except except that _decisions_ must be made on the > > > mailing list afterwards. > > > > > > If anyone in the dev community feels excluded by this prospect, I > > > would encourage you to speak up now, so that the planners can make > > > adjustments to minimize that. > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Billie Rinaldi > > > <billie.rina...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Eric Newton <eric.new...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> > > >>> What is CAS? > > >>> > > >>> - Switch to Curator. > > >>> - Monitoring. I'm hoping this will just be integration with an > > existing > > >>> tool. > > >>> - Namespaces. > > >>> - A simple query language. Perhaps there's something we can > > collaborate > > >>> with some of the other NoSQL folks. > > >>> - Update the wiki search example. > > >>> - Automatic tablet merge. > > >>> - Scalable NN > > >>> > > >> > > >> Is scalable NN == ACCUMULO-722? I'd be excited about that for 1.6. > > >> > > >> Billie > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >>> Some of these don't need design documents, but some discussion of > > >>> requirements would be nice. > > >>> > > >>> -Eric > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Keith Turner <ke...@deenlo.com> > > wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> This will be very useful. > > >>>> > > >>>> Some new features I am thinking about for 1.6 are replication, CAS, > > >>>> and Percolator. I would like to put together a bit of an initial > > >>>> design document for each of these. I'm thinking that a follow up > > >>>> online deep dive on the design of each large new 1.6 feature would > > >>>> also be very useful. > > >>>> > > >>>> In the coming week I plan to spend most of my time testing, > > >>>> documenting, fixing bugs, and polishing 1.5.0. I do not think this > > >>>> would leave much time to work on 1.6. So interleaving design > > >>>> discussion about new 1.6 features while 1.5 is being polished would > be > > >>>> nice. So once 1.5.0 ships, I would have peer reviewed designs to > > >>>> start implementing. > > >>>> > > >>>> Keith > > >>>> > > >>>> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Adam Fuchs <afu...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > >>>>> Folks, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Now that we're past feature freeze for 1.5, I'd like to set up a > > >>>> discussion > > >>>>> of the features that Accumulo developers are interested in for 1.6 > > and > > >>>>> beyond. The purpose of this discussion will be to raise awareness > of > > >>>>> projects that you think are cool and important, and to rally the > > >>>> community. > > >>>>> As a proposed format, let's plan on a series of 2-5 minute > > >>> presentations > > >>>> of > > >>>>> individual features -- what it is, why it's important, how should > we > > >>>> build > > >>>>> it, and who needs to help. We'll record the presentations for > > >>> posterity. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Since the community is now distributed throughout several states, > > let's > > >>>> try > > >>>>> our hand at an online discussion. Depending on participation, we'll > > >>> pick > > >>>> a > > >>>>> forum that can accomodate everyone. If you're interested in > > attending, > > >>>>> please fill out this doodle with what time you would be available: > > >>>>> http://www.doodle.com/w9zb77ya3ykxr4zv > > >>>>> > > >>>>> If you can, please try to fill out the survey by Tuesday afternoon. > > >>> After > > >>>>> we get a good feel for times and participation, I'll schedule an > > online > > >>>>> forum and send out a meeting invitation. If you would like to > > present a > > >>>>> feature, send me an email directly at afu...@apache.org, and I'll > > make > > >>>> sure > > >>>>> you get time to present it. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I look forward to seeing what everyone has up their sleeves! > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Cheers, > > >>>>> Adam > > >>>> > > >>> > > > > >
