On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Aaron Cordova <[email protected]> wrote:
> Benson,
>
> Just to be clear (I had to re-read your email a few times to understand) 
> you're saying a real-time online discussion such as Adam is proposing has the 
> potential to exclude some members of the dev community and that we should be 
> sure to stick to things like this email discussion to avoid those problems?

Small adjustment: email avoids these problems, but I'm not telling you
that online is 'forbidden'. Just that, as a community, you should be
careful to avoid excluding people. One schema: publish minutes, and be
sure that you don't consider a decision final until it's ratified
on-list.


>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Aaron
>
>
> On Feb 1, 2013, at 2:36 AM, Benson Margulies <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I want to caution everyone that this process skates close to an edge
>> of an Apache invariant. An online forum has the potential to exclude
>> people in far-away time zones or with other constraints. At Apache, we
>> try to maximize the use of email to avoid this problem.
>>
>> Nothing here is an absolute -- I'm not trying to torpedo this plan 
>> altogether.
>>
>> Nothing, that is, except except that _decisions_ must be made on the
>> mailing list afterwards.
>>
>> If anyone in the dev community feels excluded by this prospect, I
>> would encourage you to speak up now, so that the planners can make
>> adjustments to minimize that.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Billie Rinaldi
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Eric Newton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What is CAS?
>>>>
>>>>   - Switch to Curator.
>>>>   - Monitoring.  I'm hoping this will just be integration with an existing
>>>>   tool.
>>>>   - Namespaces.
>>>>   - A simple query language.  Perhaps there's something we can collaborate
>>>>   with some of the other NoSQL folks.
>>>>   - Update the wiki search example.
>>>>   - Automatic tablet merge.
>>>>   - Scalable NN
>>>>
>>>
>>> Is scalable NN == ACCUMULO-722?  I'd be excited about that for 1.6.
>>>
>>> Billie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Some of these don't need design documents, but some discussion of
>>>> requirements would be nice.
>>>>
>>>> -Eric
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Keith Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This will be very useful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some new features I am thinking about for 1.6 are replication, CAS,
>>>>> and Percolator.  I would like to put together a bit of an initial
>>>>> design document for each of these.  I'm thinking that a follow up
>>>>> online deep dive on the design of each large new 1.6 feature would
>>>>> also be very useful.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the coming week I plan to spend most of my time testing,
>>>>> documenting, fixing bugs, and polishing 1.5.0.  I do not think this
>>>>> would leave much time to work on 1.6.  So interleaving design
>>>>> discussion about new 1.6 features while 1.5 is being polished would be
>>>>> nice.  So once 1.5.0 ships, I would have peer reviewed designs to
>>>>> start implementing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keith
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Adam Fuchs <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now that we're past feature freeze for 1.5, I'd like to set up a
>>>>> discussion
>>>>>> of the features that Accumulo developers are interested in for 1.6 and
>>>>>> beyond. The purpose of this discussion will be to raise awareness of
>>>>>> projects that you think are cool and important, and to rally the
>>>>> community.
>>>>>> As a proposed format, let's plan on a series of 2-5 minute
>>>> presentations
>>>>> of
>>>>>> individual features -- what it is, why it's important, how should we
>>>>> build
>>>>>> it, and who needs to help. We'll record the presentations for
>>>> posterity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since the community is now distributed throughout several states, let's
>>>>> try
>>>>>> our hand at an online discussion. Depending on participation, we'll
>>>> pick
>>>>> a
>>>>>> forum that can accomodate everyone. If you're interested in attending,
>>>>>> please fill out this doodle with what time you would be available:
>>>>>> http://www.doodle.com/w9zb77ya3ykxr4zv
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you can, please try to fill out the survey by Tuesday afternoon.
>>>> After
>>>>>> we get a good feel for times and participation, I'll schedule an online
>>>>>> forum and send out a meeting invitation. If you would like to present a
>>>>>> feature, send me an email directly at [email protected], and I'll make
>>>>> sure
>>>>>> you get time to present it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I look forward to seeing what everyone has up their sleeves!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>
>>>>
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