+1 On Jan 8, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Hiram Chirino <hi...@hiramchirino.com> wrote:
> +1 > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 4:20 AM, Dejan Bosanac <de...@nighttale.net> wrote: >> +1 from me as well. We have Jetty in and it should be easy to hot-deploy >> any war folks want to use for the web part of the broker. So we can exclude >> current web demos as well (which already don't start by default), then >> rework them and allow people to install them on demand. This will allow us >> to have much leaner broker installation. >> >> Regards >> -- >> Dejan Bosanac >> ---------------------- >> Red Hat, Inc. >> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat >> dbosa...@redhat.com >> Twitter: @dejanb >> Blog: http://sensatic.net >> ActiveMQ in Action: http://www.manning.com/snyder/ >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 5:01 AM, Robert Davies <rajdav...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I agree, this seems like the best approach so far. >>> >>> On 7 Jan 2014, at 23:27, Christian Posta <christian.po...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> +1 @ Claus, Jim, and Tim's thread of the discussion. >>>> >>>> Moving the console to a subproject separates the code out enough and >>>> makes it "less intimidating" to those in the community that would like >>>> to approach it and contribute. Then have one distro that's "headless" >>>> with the option of using whatever console one wanted, including quick >>>> drop in of the old console. Could even distribute a script that goes >>>> out, d/l the old console and installs it on demand as one sees fit (as >>>> james mentioned). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Timothy Bish <tabish...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>> On 01/06/2014 03:06 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the old web console should be moved into a sub-project of >>>>>> ActiveMQ. >>>>>> Other ASF projects like Felix [1], Karaf [2], etc does this with their >>>>>> web-consoles. >>>>>> >>>>>> That may also make it easier for people to contribute to the >>>>>> web-console as a sub-project if there codebase is smaller, and not >>>>>> contains the entire ActiveMQ source code. That may spark a little more >>>>>> life into the old web-console so people can help maintain it. >>>>>> >>>>>> For the standalone ActiveMQ distribution, then installing the old web >>>>>> console should be an easy step, such as unzipping a .zip file, or >>>>>> copying a .war / .jar or something to a directory, and allowing to >>>>>> editing a configuration file to configure the console (port / context >>>>>> path / or other configurations). Then other 3rd party consoles could >>>>>> have the *same* installation procedure, so there is even >>>>>> playing-field. >>>>>> >>>>>> For the embedded ActiveMQ distribution for SMX/Karaf users, its >>>>>> already easy to install the console, as its just like any other >>>>>> installation using a feature. This is the same for other 3rd party >>>>>> consoles, and thus there is already an even playing field. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] - >>>>>> >>> http://felix.apache.org/documentation/subprojects/apache-felix-web-console.html >>>>>> [2] - http://karaf.apache.org/index/subprojects/webconsole.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Robert Davies <rajdav...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The old/original console is no longer fit for purpose, it is hard to >>>>>>> maintain, the source of a lot of security issues [1] over the last few >>>>>>> years. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is another thread about using hawtio as the console going >>> forward, >>>>>>> and without going into all the gory details it is probably likely >>> that there >>>>>>> may be no web console shipped at all in future releases of ActiveMQ. >>> The JMX >>>>>>> naming hierarchy was improved for ActiveMQ 5.8, such that its easy to >>> view >>>>>>> the running status of an ActiveMQ broker from 3rd party tools such as >>>>>>> jconsole, visualvm or hawtio. Regardless of the outcome of the other >>>>>>> discussion [2] - It doesn’t help the ActiveMQ project to try and >>> maintain a >>>>>>> static web console any more. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I propose we remove the old web console from the ActiveMQ 5.10 >>> release - >>>>>>> thoughts ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-2714?jql=project%20%3D%20AMQ%20AND%20text%20~%20%22XSS%22 >>>>>>> [2] >>>>>>> >>> http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/Default-Web-Console-td4675705.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rob Davies >>>>>>> ———————— >>>>>>> Red Hat, Inc >>>>>>> http://hawt.io - #dontcha >>>>>>> Twitter: rajdavies >>>>>>> Blog: http://rajdavies.blogspot.com >>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://www.manning.com/snyder/ >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> +1 >>>>> >>>>> The old console has been a continuous source of bugs and there's not >>> been >>>>> much community involvement in maintaining it so it'd be much better to >>> just >>>>> remove from the mainline and provide a way for those who really want to >>>>> contribute to do so without shipping out something that's not as >>> polished in >>>>> the main distribution. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Tim Bish >>>>> Sr Software Engineer | RedHat Inc. >>>>> tim.b...@redhat.com | www.fusesource.com | www.redhat.com >>>>> skype: tabish121 | twitter: @tabish121 >>>>> blog: http://timbish.blogspot.com/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Christian Posta >>>> http://www.christianposta.com/blog >>>> twitter: @christianposta >>> >>> Rob Davies >>> ———————— >>> Red Hat, Inc >>> http://hawt.io - #dontcha >>> Twitter: rajdavies >>> Blog: http://rajdavies.blogspot.com >>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://www.manning.com/snyder/ >>> >>> > > > > -- > Hiram Chirino > > Engineering | Red Hat, Inc. > > hchir...@redhat.com | fusesource.com | redhat.com > > skype: hiramchirino | twitter: @hiramchirino > > blog: Hiram Chirino's Bit Mojo
