On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote: > That’s completely BS. If I download “activemq-###.tar.gz” from ActiveMQ’s > website and I run the startup scripts and such that are documented in that > bundle and I find a problem that directly pertains to ActiveMQ, I COMPLETELY > expect to be able to go to ActiveMQ’s JIRA and log an issue. I also > completely expect to be able to do a “git clone” of ActiveMQ’s repo, diagnose > the problem, and submit a patch back to ActiveMQ. >
If this is true then we should not be using ANY 3rd party libs at all. Most users cannot tell where the line is between 3rd party libs and ActiveMQ's source. The ActiveMQ project is ultimately responsible for all functionality shipped (if its 3rd party or not). If it's a 3rd party defect then the ActiveMQ project needs to either work around the defect, patch the defect in the 3rd party library or work with the 3rd party to fix the defect. All 3 approaches are possible with hawtio too. -- Hiram Chirino Engineering | Red Hat, Inc. hchir...@redhat.com | fusesource.com | redhat.com skype: hiramchirino | twitter: @hiramchirino