I am 100% behind the idea of building activemq 6 around the hornetq
donation. There is no other viable option.

If we start another sub project there will still be confusion about the
future. It is time to make a decision about direction and rally around it.

Is anyone else in the community working on activemq 6?


On 25 March 2015 at 08:47, Rob Davies <rajdav...@gmail.com> wrote:

> (was: HornetQ & ActiveMQ's next generation)
>
> Thanks Lionel - I agree.
>
> The [VOTE] thread was getting a little verbose, and a little heated. There
> were a lot of opinions, and a lot of assumptions and its likely there was
> some miscommunication when HornetQ was donated to the ActiveMQ community.
> On the plus side, its great that there are so many passionate members of
> the community.
>
> It seems there is no consensus from the ActiveMQ community that HornetQ
> should be the next generation of ActiveMQ - yet - and hence should be a
> sub-project with its own name.
> Personally, I believe there are a lot of advantages of starting
> development of ActiveMQ 6 around a  HornetQ core - but as Hadrian as
> already pointed out - it does need to validate itself by growing its own
> diverse community first. I hope the ActiveMQ community as a whole gets
> involved in the code donated from HornetQ and pushes it the right way.
>
> Rob
>
>   Lionel Cons <lionel.c...@cern.ch>
>  25 March 2015 06:58
> (for the sake of clarity, I think that this important subject deserves more
> than the [VOTE] thread currently used, hence this new thread...)
>
> Apollo (tagline = "ActiveMQ's next generation of messaging") started in
> 2010
> as an ActiveMQ sub-project in the hope of becoming ActiveMQ 6. At that
> time,
> the latest ActiveMQ was 5.4.
>
> Almost 5 years later, ActiveMQ is now 5.11 and some of the Apollo
> developments
> (like LevelDB or MQTT) have been merged into ActiveMQ 5.x. FWIW, Apollo is
> still officially advertised as "the core of the 6.0 broker" in
> http://activemq.apache.org/new-features-in-60.html.
>
> In parallel, last year, the HornetQ codebase has been donated to ActiveMQ.
> The
> ActiveMQ 6 RC assembled so far is HornetQ with Apollo's tagline,
> "ActiveMQ's
> next generation of messaging", hence the confusion.
>
> For me, the fundamental question to answer is: has it been _decided_ that
> HornetQ will be the core of the next generation of ActiveMQ?
>
> If the answer is yes then HornetQ can be called ActiveMQ 6.0 and we should
> get
> a stable, feature complete ActiveMQ 5.x replacement a few minor versions
> later
> (who trusts a .0 version anyway?).
>
> If the answer is no (or not yet) then HornetQ should probably appear as an
> ActiveMQ sub-project, just like Apollo (still) is. HornetQ can evolve there
> and come closer to ActiveMQ "the next generation". Then, the ActiveMQ
> project
> should decide what will be ActiveMQ 6.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Lionel Cons
>
>

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