> I'm totally in favor of not using Jira, as they are serving hardly any > purpose other than just a useless step before creating a PR. However, I don't > think to make a GitHub issue mandatory is also a good step, as eventually, > it'll meet the same fate of being opened just before opening a PR.
> So IMO we can use Github issues for simple use, which is to report some > bugs/questions by users, who are not necessarily planning to create a PR soon. Yes, that was what I meant but I wasn't clear; I was just using "Github Issues" as a collective product name, and not saying we need an issue for every PR. -ash On Mar 16 2020, at 11:42 am, Sumit Maheshwari <sumeet.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm totally in favor of not using Jira, as they are serving hardly any > purpose other than just a useless step before creating a PR. However, I don't > think to make a GitHub issue mandatory is also a good step, as eventually, > it'll meet the same fate of being opened just before opening a PR. So IMO we > can use Github issues for simple use, which is to report some bugs/questions > by users, who are not necessarily planning to create a PR soon. Also, if we > go this route, then we can do the one time Jira cleanup and port only valid > issues in Github. On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 5:07 PM Ash Berlin-Taylor wrote: > > Yeah, Github issues are far from perfect, it's mainly just I feel we have > a > lot of "busy-work" in our process that is no longer really serving much > > benefit to us as a community. > > -a > On Mar 16 2020, at 11:35 am, Bolke de > Bruin wrote: > > Honestly, I think both suck. So I can go either way > > > > > > > On 16 March 2020 at 12:33:27, Ash Berlin-Taylor (a...@firemirror.com > > (mailto:a s...@firemirror.com)) wrote: > > > The subject pretty much says it all. > > > We aren't using Jira very well in most cases, and the requirement for > a Jira ticket for a code change leads to people just creating new Jira > tickets, rather than searching to see if there already exists a ticket for > that feature. > > > For example: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AIRFLOW-6987 and > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AIRFLOW-2824 (I'm not trying to > pick on anyone involved here, I just happened to notice this) > > > Additionally most of the committers follow a similar path of "work on > feature, open Jira ticket just before creating PR". > > > I am proposing we migrate over to Github issues and drop the > requirement to have a jira ticket for PRs. > > > The one downside is we might get people opening issues for as an > "help, how do I do this" -- I think we can address that by having an issue > template saying something like "DO NOT OPEN AN ISSUE ASKING FOR HELP - ask > on user s@ or join slack". > > > The only other thing Jira currently gives us is the ability mark tasks > for "backporting" -- I think we can replace that with Github Milestones. > Kaxil or I will happily update the scripts we use to build/check the status > of releases. > > > Thoughts? > > > The only outstanding question is then what do we do about migrating > the issue (do we copy issues across to Github?). Perhaps it might be a good > opportunity for a clean slate. > > > -ash > > > > > > > > > >
