+1

One other problem it would help us solve is *closing issues where the PR is
merged*. This is one of the pain-points for us, some of the JIRA issues are
open even though the PR is merged.

With Github issues, if there is a PR solving an existing issue just adding
"fixes #20" would close that issue when PR is merged.

Regards,
Kaxil



On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 12:04 PM Ash Berlin-Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Maybe we could have some clear guidelines on when the issues should be
> created - only when there is a problem someone wants to report and we have
> no code for it yet.
>
> Yes, exactly. If you want to submit a fix directly: great, open a PR; if
> you want to report it but arent able/willing to submit a fix straight away:
> create an issue.
> -a
> On Mar 16 2020, at 12:02 pm, Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > I am all for it. We can easily rely just on PR# to uniquely identify
> commit rather than Github issue id - and remove the requirement to have an
> issue altogether? The issue can be added optionally but it should not be a
> requirement. I think PRs and Issues are pretty equivalent when you follow
> the "work" + "create" +" submit" sequence - without the unnecessary hassle.
> You can assign milestones/projects/label the same way on both. We actually
> found that even when we use them in some other projects - they become
> unnecessary. I think eventually there should be a way to convert an issue
> into PR :). Even if we want to use Github Projects eventually, we can add
> PRs to projects similarly as issues. Maybe we could have some clear
> guidelines on when the issues should be created - only when there is a
> problem someone wants to report and we have no code for it yet. J. On Mon,
> Mar 16, 2020 at 12:46 PM Ash Berlin-Taylor wrote: > > I'm totally in favor
> of not using Jira, as they are serving hardly
>  any > purpose other than just a useless step before creating a PR.
> However, I > don't think to make a GitHub issue mandatory is also a good
> step, as > eventually, it'll meet the same fate of being opened just before
> opening a > PR. > > > So IMO we can use Github issues for simple use, which
> is to report some > bugs/questions by users, who are not necessarily
> planning to create a PR > soon. > Yes, that was what I meant but I wasn't
> clear; I was just using "Github > Issues" as a collective product name, and
> not saying we need an issue for > every PR. > > -ash > > On Mar 16 2020, at
> 11:42 am, Sumit Maheshwari > wrote: > > I'm totally in favor of not using
> Jira, as they are serving hardly any > purpose other than just a useless
> step before creating a PR. However, I > don't think to make a GitHub issue
> mandatory is also a good step, as > eventually, it'll meet the same fate of
> being opened just before opening a > PR. So IMO we can use Github issues
> for simple use, which is to report some
>  > bugs/questions by users, who are not necessarily planning to create a
> PR > soon. Also, if we go this route, then we can do the one time Jira
> cleanup > and port only valid issues in Github. On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at
> 5:07 PM Ash > Berlin-Taylor wrote: > Yeah, Github issues are far from
> perfect, it's > mainly just I feel we have > a lot of "busy-work" in our
> process that is no > longer really serving much > benefit to us as a
> community. > > -a > On Mar > 16 2020, at 11:35 am, Bolke de Bruin wrote: >
> > Honestly, I think both > suck. So I can go either way > > > > > > On 16
> March 2020 at 12:33:27, Ash > Berlin-Taylor ([email protected] > (mailto:
> a > [email protected])) wrote: > > > The subject pretty much says it all.
> > > > > We aren't using Jira very well in most cases, and the requirement
> for > a > Jira ticket for a code change leads to people just creating new
> Jira > > tickets, rather than searching to see if there already exists a
> ticket for > > that feature. > > > For example: > ht
> tps://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AIRFLOW-6987 and > >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AIRFLOW-2824 (I'm not trying to > >
> pick on anyone involved here, I just happened to notice this) > > > >
> Additionally most of the committers follow a similar path of "work on > >
> feature, open Jira ticket just before creating PR". > > > I am proposing we
> > migrate over to Github issues and drop the > requirement to have a jira >
> ticket for PRs. > > > The one downside is we might get people opening >
> issues for as an > "help, how do I do this" -- I think we can address that
> > by having an issue > template saying something like "DO NOT OPEN AN ISSUE
> > ASKING FOR HELP - ask > on user > s@ or join slack". > > > The only
> other thing Jira currently gives us is > the ability mark tasks > for
> "backporting" -- I think we can replace that > with Github Milestones. >
> Kaxil or I will happily update the scripts we use > to build/check the
> status > of releases. > > > Thoughts? > > > The only > outstandi
> ng question is then what do we do about migrating > the issue (do > we
> copy issues across to Github?). Perhaps it might be a good > opportunity >
> for a clean slate. > > > -ash > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Jarek Potiuk
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