Hi,

As a PMC member, I am of course very disappointed with myself for not being
able to express some of these concerns from both Rust and other (e.g.
Julia) implementations. I do think that I was vocal enough. At some point
the interactions here started to affect my wellbeing and I thus decided to
scale down by efforts.

* If you think that there is a conflict of interests that I have not been
able to manage, I am of course willing to resign from PMC membership
* If you think that I should have acted differently, I am also very open to
feedback.

Best,
Jorge


On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 8:16 AM Jorge Cardoso Leitão <
jorgecarlei...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Wes,
>
> > I will say additionally: it is important to have discussions on the
> mailing list to explain / draw attention to major initiatives so
> others aren't left wondering what people's plans are.
>
> As an open source contributor and developer of arrow2 and parquet2, given
> how recent threads over repos, github issues, JIRA, Julia, Ballista have
> been handled, I admit I feel intimidated to bring anything here. Arrow2
> has an FAQ <https://github.com/jorgecarleitao/arrow2#faq> and an open
> issue <https://github.com/jorgecarleitao/arrow2/issues/31> discussing
> these.
>
> Best,
> Jorge
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 1:35 PM Wes McKinney <wesmck...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I will say additionally: it is important to have discussions on the
>> mailing list to explain / draw attention to major initiatives so
>> others aren't left wondering what people's plans are.
>>
>> I see from the 3/10 sync call notes
>>
>> "We talked about Jorge’s work on “Arrow2”. There is a desire to implement
>> this new design in Arrow and we talked about creating a branch in the
>> Arrow
>> repo to continue this work."
>>
>> So there has been discussion about this, but only in video calls. It's
>> OK to discuss these things in video calls, but please keep in mind
>> that not everyone will be able to participate in the call (because of
>> time zones or English fluency) and so it's important to have written
>> discussions to explain.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 6:27 AM Wes McKinney <wesmck...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm sorry to be the PMC worry wart around here, but I'm curious what
>> > is the plan (if any) with these repositories
>> >
>> > https://github.com/jorgecarleitao/arrow2
>> > https://github.com/jorgecarleitao/parquet2
>> >
>> > I understand that large new projects like this are sometimes
>> > necessary, but what some Apache projects have done is set up a project
>> > branch where the work can take place without bothering the master
>> > branch. We can of course also create new standalone git repositories
>> > under the apache/ namespace for experimental work if you aren't sure
>> > it's going to get merged into master. What we want to avoid is having
>> > significant work happening outside the community.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 6:19 AM Mike Seddon <seddo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > > Sorry I am unable to attend today's (tomorrow's?) call but would like
>> to
>> > > raise the idea of temporarily suspending major PRs against Rust
>> > > Arrow/DataFusion until the work to incorporate the two big changes for
>> > > Rust/DataFusion:
>> > >
>> > > 1. Jorge's major refactor/rewrite of the core Rust Arrow code.
>> > > 2. Andy's Ballista donation (I am not sure how much this will affect
>> the
>> > > core Arrow/DataFusion code).
>> > >
>> > > I am able to help do some of the grunt work involved with merging
>> these
>> > > pieces if I can be of assistance - but I feel the time has come to at
>> least
>> > > face the major Rust Arrow work for all the reasons Jorge has
>> previously put
>> > > forward.
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > > Mike
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:41 AM Andy Grove <andygrov...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi Mike,
>> > > >
>> > > > I recently added the call details in the Arrow Rust README, here:
>> > > >
>> https://github.com/apache/arrow/tree/master/rust#arrow-rust-community
>> > > >
>> > > > I've added you to the guest list so it should sync with your
>> calendar now.
>> > > > I'm happy to do this for anyone else that wants me to add them.
>> > > >
>> > > > Unfortunately, I couldn't make the call today and it looks like
>> there were
>> > > > issues with letting people into the call. I've just been looking at
>> the
>> > > > settings and I'm not sure how I can change that.
>> > > >
>> > > > Regarding the timing of the call, I am open to moving it if we can
>> find a
>> > > > time that accommodates everyone reasonably well. I think we have
>> regular
>> > > > attendance from the US, UK, Europe, South Africa, and Australia so
>> far.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks,
>> > > >
>> > > > Andy.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 5:24 PM Mike Seddon <seddo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hi Jorge,
>> > > > > Can you please confirm the starting time (and timezone) and
>> correct
>> > > > Google
>> > > > > Meet link of the Rust and DataFusion sync calls?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I missed today's due to daylight saving time changes - which is
>> going to
>> > > > > make Sydney time even harder.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks
>> > > > > Mike
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 3:15 AM Jorge Cardoso Leitão <
>> > > > > jorgecarlei...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Hi,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > If someone is trying to join the meeting, please try this link:
>> > > > > > https://meet.google.com/pgx-xycf-zuf
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Best,
>> > > > > > Jorge
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>>
>

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